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OP; did you even look at the comparison chart? Thought not.
Maybe I should reword the title then. It's smart marketing to attract dumb people to Cadillac. For most of us, it's dumb marketing because any car guy will know the 2 cars aren't even comparable. Vehicle class and motor performance are what drives car prices; not options like lane departure warning and premium leather seating. If you're only looking at features then of course a fully loaded inferior vehicle will seem like a good value compared to a fully loaded model of superior vehicle.
This thing isn't even a complete electric vehicle. It gets 37 miles on a full charge. It then has a gas tank which is used to fuel a generator which then recharges the battery. That's how it gets the 340mile range. Comparing the ELR to the Tesla is really comparing apples to oranges. Lets see GM make a 100% electric vehicle that gets the range of the Tesla with the power of the Tesla and THEN compare costs.
Maybe I should reword the title then. It's smart marketing to attract dumb people to Cadillac. For most of us, it's dumb marketing because any car guy will know the 2 cars aren't even comparable. Vehicle class and motor performance are what drives car prices; not options like lane departure warning and premium leather seating.
Not really; for many people, they want the electric car because they want something unique. If they wanted a performance coupe they would get a BMW.
The performance aspect is secondary to having a unique toy. What do you compare the Cadillac to? There aren't many electric vehicles out there. If people cross shop the Cadillac and Tesla, it makes sense.
This thing isn't even a complete electric vehicle. It gets 37 miles on a full charge. It then has a gas tank which is used to fuel a generator which then recharges the battery. That's how it gets the 340mile range. Comparing the ELR to the Tesla is really comparing apples to oranges. Lets see GM make a 100% electric vehicle that gets the range of the Tesla with the power of the Tesla and THEN compare costs.
You are right Testla is just a fad car. It will never be sold in great quanties like regular cars are. Why would anyone pay that kind of money for a car that cannot go that far before needing a recharge. At least with the ELR you can go cross country with out stoping to recharge your battery every 300 miles. that's why it will never take off in states were it snows. And if GM wanted to just make a all electric car again , they had one before called the EV1 made from 1996 to 1999 but you might be to young to remember . This is not GM first rodeo with electric cars. GM can burry Testla just because of all the money GM has it can make and sell them cheaper than Testla if GM was going to make just a all electric car.
You are right Testla is just a fad car. It will never be sold in great quanties like regular cars are. Why would anyone pay that kind of money for a car that cannot go that far before needing a recharge. At least with the ELR you can go cross country with out stoping to recharge your battery every 300 miles. that's why it will never take off in states were it snows. And if GM wanted to just make a all electric car again , they had one before called the EV1 made from 1996 to 1999 but you might be to young to remember . This is not GM first rodeo with electric cars. GM can burry Testla just because of all the money GM has it can make and sell them cheaper than Testla if GM was going to make just a all electric car.
What is your problem? You refuse to spell TESLA correctly? I am old enough to remember the EV1. It was interesting, but unsuccessful. I saw a few in California in the 1990s.
You just don't get it do you? The Tesla has enough range to be practical for long trips. It is the only EV that has that range. Its range is more than enough for the driving most people do everyday. The ELR's range is greater, but you need gasoline. If range is the #1 thing - then all gasoline or diesel wins every time.
Why are you making this a GM vs. Tesla fight? You make everything a GM fight. Tesla isn't competing against GM. Tesla is a specialty make, like Porsche, who will likely show the way in electric vehicles. They believe in it so much they are building the largest lithium ion factory in the world. Mighty GM might end up buying batteries from Tesla.
At least with the ELR you can go cross country with out stoping to recharge your battery every 300 miles
People keep making comments like this and all I can do is just laugh. How many people, minus truckers actually drive more than 300 miles a day? You are seriously going to make a car purchase based on the fact that IF you decide to take that cross country vacation, you have to stop and recharge the battery?
It is known that the average miles per year driven varies between 10,000 and 15,000. With 15,000, this averages out to only 41 miles per day. Generally, this would be less during the week and more on the weekend due to weekend driving trips to wherever, but nowhere near the 300 mile range.
You are right Testla is just a fad car. It will never be sold in great quanties like regular cars are. Why would anyone pay that kind of money for a car that cannot go that far before needing a recharge. At least with the ELR you can go cross country with out stoping to recharge your battery every 300 miles. that's why it will never take off in states were it snows. And if GM wanted to just make a all electric car again , they had one before called the EV1 made from 1996 to 1999 but you might be to young to remember . This is not GM first rodeo with electric cars. GM can burry Testla just because of all the money GM has it can make and sell them cheaper than Testla if GM was going to make just a all electric car.
GM and Ford have had over a century to build their business models and use their strength to make the best possible products. In some periods of time, they and the other US (or worldwide) manufacturers have done an outstanding job. In other periods of time, the existing automotive manufacturers have not done so well at innovating the product lines or the business models. Along comes Mr. Musk with a little different spin on how he can revolutionize technology being built into the vehicles by starting over.
If you have ever started or led a significant operation of any kind, there is a real value in sometimes deciding to start new rather then change the direction of a large and cumbersome bureaucracy. Tesla is a fresh new set of ideas involving the latest safety designs, power supply, and manufacturing. Comparing Tesla to Ford or GM today is an absurd and unfair comparison. Compare Tesla to the Ford and GM of the 1920's and you might be getting a real feel for the magnitude of what is happening. Tesla is going to change the way vehicles are manufactured and provide incredible gains in the development of electric vehicles that will be affordable for the masses. Remember, he is allowing the technology patents to be used by anyone in good faith. Even GM and Ford. He already has contracts in place for electric drivetrains and components with Chrysler, Mercedes, and Toyota.
Then, lets not forget his investments in solar power, space exploration, and his concept for Hyperloop. While I am not personally in line to buy one of his vehicles since they do not personally work for my needs at this time, I suggest that Tesla and its creator are going to change transportation in dramatic fashion, and to dismiss it as a toy for the rich is foolish. The same was said for the air transportation industry for a long time, and today we look at flying as a common occurrence.
Electric cars, incorporating solar power to move people through a partial vacuum, or putting commercial travelers on the space station or Mars - Tesla is a piece of the puzzle that moving forward very well could revolutionize travel. Incentives for this type of visionary development may not be likable in your view, but it may be the future of transportation.
GM and Ford have had over a century to build their business models and use their strength to make the best possible products. In some periods of time, they and the other US (or worldwide) manufacturers have done an outstanding job. In other periods of time, the existing automotive manufacturers have not done so well at innovating the product lines or the business models. Along comes Mr. Musk with a little different spin on how he can revolutionize technology being built into the vehicles by starting over.
If you have ever started or led a significant operation of any kind, there is a real value in sometimes deciding to start new rather then change the direction of a large and cumbersome bureaucracy. Tesla is a fresh new set of ideas involving the latest safety designs, power supply, and manufacturing. Comparing Tesla to Ford or GM today is an absurd and unfair comparison. Compare Tesla to the Ford and GM of the 1920's and you might be getting a real feel for the magnitude of what is happening. Tesla is going to change the way vehicles are manufactured and provide incredible gains in the development of electric vehicles that will be affordable for the masses. Remember, he is allowing the technology patents to be used by anyone in good faith. Even GM and Ford. He already has contracts in place for electric drivetrains and components with Chrysler, Mercedes, and Toyota.
Then, lets not forget his investments in solar power, space exploration, and his concept for Hyperloop. While I am not personally in line to buy one of his vehicles since they do not personally work for my needs at this time, I suggest that Tesla and its creator are going to change transportation in dramatic fashion, and to dismiss it as a toy for the rich is foolish. The same was said for the air transportation industry for a long time, and today we look at flying as a common occurrence.
Electric cars, incorporating solar power to move people through a partial vacuum, or putting commercial travelers on the space station or Mars - Tesla is a piece of the puzzle that moving forward very well could revolutionize travel. Incentives for this type of visionary development may not be likable in your view, but it may be the future of transportation.
A good summary that explains why I own TSLA stock and not GM. I do own F also, but don't plan to hold indefinitely.
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