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LOL, you mean Ford will have to do something to keep up with Chevrolet, like always. The GT500's competitor is the Corvette, since they are roughly within the same price range. Last time I checked, the GT500 didn't run to well with the Vette. GM has always had the slight edge over Ford when it comes to muscle cars.
Yeah, Chevy Camaro has always done better than Ford Mustang. So good in fact that with declining sales Chevy had to cancel the model for many years while the Mustang continued chugging along.
Ugly to say the least. They got a long way to go to hang with Challenger and Mustang in the cosmetics dept. Not saying anything about the performance, I'm sure it's got muscle, but the new Camaro seems to be trying too hard. The tail lights look to be stolen from a Vette, the roof looks like it was chopped 3 inches in a bad attempt to look "cool", and the front end is not mean, it's weak. The oversizes dubs make up for lack of originality in the body lines and the interior is, well, clustered.
I'm a fan of the Gen 1 and Gen II Camaro, but this thing is hideous.
And what happened to the Camaro logo they used for over 30 years? They replace it with that worn out bow-tie.
Yeah, Chevy Camaro has always done better than Ford Mustang. So good in fact that with declining sales Chevy had to cancel the model for many years while the Mustang continued chugging along.
At least Mustang didn't have to stop making thier car for 6 or 7 years just to take time to draw up a new overpriced horrifically styled new product aimed at baby boomers.
Yeah, Chevy Camaro has always done better than Ford Mustang. So good in fact that with declining sales Chevy had to cancel the model for many years while the Mustang continued chugging along.
So you'd think the Mustang would have the edge, yet it doesn't.
So you'd think the Mustang would have the edge, yet it doesn't.
I don't know as far as a business and numbers standpoint, but the Mustang seems to have a pretty loyal fanbase that has stood the test of time. I myself am a fan of many older cars, I'm not particular to any make, if it looks good I like it. The new Camaro (to me) does not look very thought out and the new Mustang seems to be very true to it's heritage and well thought out. Guess I'm going out on a limb to say that Chevrolet is going a bit overboard to get sales back by re-releasing the Camaro with such a hefty pricetag. Like I said I don't take sides with automakers at all. If I thought the new Camaro was cool I would admit it, sadly I can't.
Wrong. The Corvette is a 2 seat sports car, its Ford counterpart was the Ford GT. The Mustang GT500 (540 hp) is the Camaros counterpart and soundly tromps it. As does the GT over the Corvette.
Get your facts straight
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Originally Posted by Chadro77
LOL, you mean Ford will have to do something to keep up with Chevrolet, like always. The GT500's competitor is the Corvette, since they are roughly within the same price range. Last time I checked, the GT500 didn't run to well with the Vette. GM has always had the slight edge over Ford when it comes to muscle cars.
Wrong. The Corvette is a 2 seat sports car, its Ford counterpart was the Ford GT. The Mustang GT500 (540 hp) is the Camaros counterpart and soundly tromps it. As does the GT over the Corvette.
Get your facts straight
No, your wrong. The GT500 is traditionally compared to the Vette based on price and horsepower. Heres just one link you can take a peak at:
2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 vs. 2008 Ford Shelby GT500KR (http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=131034/pageNumber=1?synpartner=edmunds&pageurl=www.edmund s.com/reviews/comparison/articles/131034/article.html - broken link)
"The 2008 Corvette Z06 wins this test against the 2008 Ford Shelby GT500KR by 28.6 points, and when you drive the Vette, you immediately understand why."
*Plus how do you think the Camaro would run if GM simply threw a supercharger on the 6.2 like ford did with the 5.4?
LOL, you mean Ford will have to do something to keep up with Chevrolet, like always. The GT500's competitor is the Corvette, since they are roughly within the same price range. Last time I checked, the GT500 didn't run to well with the Vette. GM has always had the slight edge over Ford when it comes to muscle cars.
Muscle cars? Did you forget the Thunderbolt? Fastest muscle car ever. And Ford pioneered the pony car, so your theory of Ford "catching up" is bogus. The GT500KR is not a Corvette competitor, its a bullish pony car that has the Camaro, Challenger, Charger, etc, picking rubber out of their grilles. The new Vette ZR-1 is definitely a force to be reckoned with, but is in a different class than the Mustang, so why compare? If you want the Vette to scrap with a Stang on the track, pit it against the Cobra R, which can still hang in the corners with the ZR-1 for the most part, and the car is almost a decade old. The current Mustang GT is only .1 seconds slower to 60 than the 425hp SS Camaro, and also outbrakes and outhandles it (with the available Track Pack). Build quality is better, too, and it also gets more mpgs while doing so.
And last I checked I dont recall GM ever winning the top class at LeMans, they didnt field any cars to compete with Ferrari, unlike Ford who mopped up Ferrari for 4 years straight. The top GM (Vette) couldnt even keep the AC Cobras at bay either. Sounds to me like GM is constantly playing catch up with Ford if you ask me. There is more to Ford than what you see here in the States, my friend. Ford is a competetive world force that does extremely well in all forms of racing.
Heck, I can take this a step further and see how GM did against Ford motors in F1? Hmmm. World Rally? Hmmmm. Sorry dude, Ford is far ahead when it comes to competing in many more forms of racing, so the advantage once again goes to Ford.
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