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Old 11-08-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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Look, you are calling the various schools "attendance boundaries" by a term NO ONE involved in either education or real estate in the area would EVER use -- "districts". It is one DISTRICT and that is D181.

Further, if one were to look at data from the most recent census the information for household income would show that the wealthiest portion of D181 is that which is served by Elm school. This includes the portions of Burr Ridge in D181 and the portions of Hinsdale south of 55th / east of 294. The average selling price in this portion of Hinsdale is significantly lowered by the relatively large number of attached townhomes, most of which are older and not desirable to families. The selling price for single family in this part of D181 is quite high when one looks at the homes inside Burr Ridge and the small number of large homes in Hinsdale that abut Ruth Lake CC. Taking into account ONLY single family inside Hinsdale itself the average selling price is highest inside the portion of Hinsdale that is part of the Oak attendance boundary, how ever that also has the largest lot size and thus the largest homes. If one were to go to the trouble of breaking out sales on a per sq ft basis the mostly smaller lots in then Lane has the highest selling price per sq ft, though the differences between any of the schools (including Walker, and Prospect in CH) is very minor. There is nothing to really debate about the relative cost / desirability of SE Hinsdale, historically it has the greatest percentage of impressive homes (both architecturally and shear scale), though from a "market demand" perspective I would rather have 5 listing in the portion of Hinsdale that is walking distance from the main train station than 1 or 2 that have the same potential for commission in the Highlands / Woodlands...

Historically the western half of Hinsdale has had a wider range of lot sizes and home prices. The desirability of homes was once driven by the relative size of lots / homes but in all honestly there are a significant number of buyers that specifically do not want a particularly "enormous" home even if they could afford one and do prefer to have a more compact house / lot -- they rightly associate the "big house / big lot" with Oak Brook or Burr Ridge. If you want to quibble that the compact nature of the lots on the SW portion of Hinsdale has not seen as many tear downs as the larger lots in NW and claim that is evidence of some "desirability" factor I would point out that when homes that are new / updated do become available in the SW portion they do tend to sell far more quickly and at a greater percentage of asking price than behemoths that sit on the "tear down three build two" lots in the NW portion, and require a whole lot less expensive advertising than even the desirable homes in the SE...

Really I find this to be quite silly -- like something that debutants might chatter about at some ancient cotillion.

The mission of the D181 Board of Ed, for literally as long as I have been alive, has been to deliver the highest quality to each of the students regardless of which school they attend. Toward this end all of the District schools has been signficiantly modernized / rebuilt over the past several years, uniform goals have been worked on cooperatively with the district administration / staff, expenditures are weighed to evaluate district wide needs before building level spending and the result is what is almost unquestionably the best performing district of its size in the whole state. That is what matters to 99% of home buyers, not whose great great great ancestors first built the biggest house on the prettiest street...

As to the question of buying a home that lies in the portion of Clarendon Hills south of 55th St (which is still incorporated CH down to about 59th St, so police / fire is from CH, parks are part of CH Park District) to be part of Maerecker District and then go on to Hinsdale Central my answer would be that yes these homes are more attractively priced, though the educational environment of Maerecker does encompass a different student population than D181. One has to decide how important those things are.

In local terms "unincorporated Hinsdale" almost always refers to the area south of Plainfield Rd and east of Argonne that is part of Hinsdale South attendance area. South serves primarily Darien and Willowbrook with portions of southern Westmont being in the "option" area where families can opt either for Central or South.

The overall performance of Lyons Township is generally a bit better than Hinsdale South, but the trade offs of living in say downtown Western Springs /LaGrange might mean better access to commuting for dad/ mom, walk to library / parks for kids and very different kind of feel to the mostly "cul de sac subdivisions"...


I will be happy to provide more clarification on any of these points.
What??? Your wordy post is all over the place. The words " district" I suppose can be replaced by "attendance boundary". And of course you can sell an updated house in SW Hinsdale faster than " a behemoth" on Maple in NW Hinsdale, since alot more people can afford a 600k house than a $5M house. My point was about your incorrect stereotype that north is cheaper than south and west is cheaper than east, trivial sure, but certainly incorrect to anyone who is asking about the town. Any one driving around Burns Field can plainly observe this. It sounded like you had never been in the village....
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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i stand by statements. Both historically and presently SE is far and away the mostly costly and desirable part of town.

ASK ANY REALTOR IN DUPAGE COUNTY if eastern Hinsdale has more desirability than west. This is a slam dunk.

While you are driving around Burns field you might also want to check prices of homes on Ravine and The Lane, streets that terminate at Garfield and then tell if you'll find a better value due south around say 3rd and Elm.

There are anonomilies when looking at individual homes. There are those folks what will be OK with a house that covers the whole lot. In general people prefer homes that fit into the scale / character of a street / neighborhood over hulking houses. A lot of not "locally connected" builders are literally stuck with some quite attractive homes that frankly are out of character from their neighbors. The listing price, when adjusted for the location, tends to bear out the over price per sq ft discount needed to entice folks to live a little further from the things that make a town like Hinsdale so appealing.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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i stand by statements. Both historically and presently SE is far and away the mostly costly and desirable part of town.

ASK ANY REALTOR IN DUPAGE COUNTY if eastern Hinsdale has more desirability than west. This is a slam dunk.

While you are driving around Burns field you might also want to check prices of homes on Ravine and The Lane, streets that terminate at Garfield and then tell if you'll find a better value due south around say 3rd and Elm.

There are anonomilies when looking at individual homes. There are those folks what will be OK with a house that covers the whole lot. In general people prefer homes that fit into the scale / character of a street / neighborhood over hulking houses. A lot of not "locally connected" builders are literally stuck with some quite attractive homes that frankly are out of character from their neighbors. The listing price, when adjusted for the location, tends to bear out the over price per sq ft discount needed to entice folks to live a little further from the things that make a town like Hinsdale so appealing.
What I find funny about all this back and forth is that you hold yourself out as an authority who is never wrong. Eastern Hinsdale also encompasses the area around Whole Foods and the area up to the Adventist School which has the least expensive and least desireable homes in the entire town, an area once owned by the hospital which is slowly redeveloping ( this area is also known as being part of the Northeast quadrant ). While I enjoy occasionally reading your thousands of posts, I am amazed that you are not completely accurate in your statements, since the streets around Whole Foods and the 294 Interchange are every bit as far east as the corner of 8th and County Line Road in Southest Hinsdale, yes, Chet, the best part of town.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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Well back when The Cypress occupied the land that is now Whole Foods that section of Hinsdale was part of the Western Springs school district and far from below the relative desirability of today. Many shoppers now are very happy to find a home in the Lane attendance area.

The homes that back-up to 294 or are on the through streets like County Line are not nearly as highly sought after as those on Ravine or The Lane, but that is a function of the local negatives of traffic and such.

The section of northern Hinsdale from York/Garfield to about Adams comprimies the core of the "historic center of Town" and among north side neighborhoods has always been quite nice. The section west of there is just not as uniformly desirable, some of it has to do with goofy fill-in builders and the general level of visual appeal, but those are the kinds of things that are largely matters of "taste" -- no real negatives until you are on top 83 or Ogden, and even then with the right buyer / right lot / right house the prices can be sky high...
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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Boys, Boys....you're both pretty so can we move on from this? I mean, seriously, this is HINSDALE that we are talking about. I grew up there and went to Hinsdale Central and never in all my years did someone turn their nose up at what quadrant of Hinsdale someone lived (and believe me, they were pretty good at turing up their noses at the thought of something "undesirable").

You really can't go wrong...it comes down to personal preference. Is any of this helping the OP?
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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I largely agree with whakru -- my kids went to Central and believe me the range of things that kids did segregate themselves by was pretty standard for other high schools: jocks, band, drama, high achievers, et cetera.

I jumped back into the thread to extinguish any nonsense that others may have been infusing that there some kind of imbalance of the school attendance boundaries and clarify that there are a multitude of desirable homes in every part of D181, which serves all of incorporated Hinsdale including the portion that extends south of 55th St and the portion north of Ogden Ave, the vast majority of Clarendon Hills (the notable exception being the portions south of 55th St and the western subdivision known as Blackhawk Heights), a portion of Burr Ridge, and small portion of Oak Brook.

Beyond the OP's question these threads come up in google searches years out in the future and any misinformation is at best confusing...
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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Just saw this place hit the MLS and I think it is fairly representative of what MANY homes in the Monroe attendance area look like:

http://goo/gl/aJexV (broken link)


Overall a nice enough home. Built in 1978, four bedrooms, updated kitchen & master bath, basement finished as "rec room", nothing "special" as far as outdoor entertaining and overall a kind of "plain Jane" exterior... I think it is priced quite fairly and should be attractive to someone relocating from either outside the region or Chicago. It probably would not have a whole lot of appeal to "move up" buyers that might prefer something with more vintage charm / more pizzazz / more extensive entertaining space (indoors or out)...
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Hinsdale, IL
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Chet, your link isn't working for me. What's the price and boundaries so I can search on a broker's site?
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:12 AM
 
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try this

517 Morris Lane, Hinsdale, Illinois 60521 (MLS# 07938196) - Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - ColdwellBankerOnline.com

It is two blocks north of Burns, unlike much of the nearby comps it is priced realistically. It ought to generate quite a bit of interest...
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Hinsdale, IL
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try this

517 Morris Lane, Hinsdale, Illinois 60521 (MLS# 07938196) - Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - ColdwellBankerOnline.com

It is two blocks north of Burns, unlike much of the nearby comps it is priced realistically. It ought to generate quite a bit of interest...
Thanks Chet. We bought a year ago, and it's always interesting to see at what homes are priced this time of year. Frankly, because of the age of the home and distance to the train, I think it's priced about $50k-$75k too high (and if not, then we definitely got our house for a steal).
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