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Old 01-17-2008, 11:53 AM
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Yes, very informative, but also somewhat dated info and rather false in many cases.

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Old 01-17-2008, 01:49 PM
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Perhaps the info wasn't exactly on, but c'mon it's an opinion and it's hers/his to have. The poster certainly didn't call anyone hicks. It just makes you look defensive and silly.

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Old 01-17-2008, 02:38 PM
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Perhaps the info wasn't exactly on, but c'mon it's an opinion and it's hers/his to have. The poster certainly didn't call anyone hicks. It just makes you look defensive and silly.
Correct, but when one goes as far to say, the pluses to a town are this town has "intelligent well educated people, and well rounded kids" it looks like they are saying that the other doesn't and it is just a town of dumb *****es and punks. So, sorry to point that out as I am just a big SILLY *****!

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Old 01-17-2008, 03:00 PM
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Just my 2 cents, if money is no object, then by all means, Hinsdale is great. It's very affluent, probably one of the most affluent burbs in Chicagoland next to maybe the North Shore. It's beautiful, has great schools, easy access to the city, and is a wonderful place to live. However, if money IS an object, which it is for most of us, then Orland Park is a great place to call home. Orland Park has lots to offer, it has great schools, lots of shopping and dining, trains to the city, and while it definately has affluent sections, it is much more affordable and your housing dollars will go much further in Orland than they will in Hinsdale.

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Old 01-17-2008, 03:49 PM
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First off I have no idea where you are getting some of this info you are feeding this board, but I guess thats because we are all just a bunch of dumb hicks down here on the south side, you know not coming from Hinsdale where everyone is so intelligent and all...( people who are educated with well rounded kids,) (Oh brother! LOL!)Kids have to change schools mid-stream? HUH? Since when? I have lived in Orland for many years and maybe years ago like 25 years ago when the boundaries were being adjusted this was the case, but this is TOTALLY false now. The school district's boundaries have not changed now in years. Next, the schools are fair in regards to quality? Again, since when? It just happens that Sandburg for instance was rated a 10 out of 10. Carl Sandburg High School - Orland Park, Illinois - IL - school overview ??? How much better of a school do you expect? Also not to mention that the district spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the past decade redoing that school to give it it's current look. Next as for the schools, kids can't walk to them? Maybe if your kid is some lazy ***** 200lb heffer this is the case, but most of the schools are located right in the neighborhoods on the elementary level and if not, the district provides FREE bus service for the kids, so problem solved.

Next, you are right about La Grange being at a standstill, but the part you failed to mention is that there are at least three other streets you can take that all the locals know about to avoid La Grange during those peak times to get you to and from your destinations with ease. (94th Ave, John Humphrey Drive, Ravinia, and if you are way off to the west use West Avenue.) Next in regards to our bad traffic, the state and the village both are funneling in millions of dollars into improving the roads and they are currently under construction for widening which is the reason for the back-ups. I can understand the town leaving people with a sour taste in their mouths though because the only roads you know are La Grange and 159th in Orland of which both are going through some major changes causing horrendous backups, so you see this and say, "the #@ll with this, this is aweful", not realizing there are other roads (local's secret routes) that you don't know about and we do try to keep it a secret really to avoid having those routes all backed up with out of town shopping traffic trying to get to the mall. Just remember though, the barracades on the main routes won't be up forever.

Next, home values aren't going up much? Again, HUH? You must be kidding. The homes aren't priced as high as in Hinsdale, yes, but that doesn't mean that they aren't going up in value as fast if not even faster. Consider this, you buy a home in Hinsdale for $800K and in 10 years it has gone up to $950K which is pretty typical there for your average Hinsdale house, thus yielding you a $150K profit. Now take a similar house and put it into Orland where you will pay maybe $600K for that same house and ten years later it will yield a return of $800K of which in many cases this has been the case (Silo Ridge, Crystal Tree, Deer Creek Estates, etc) yielding you a return of $200K, so which way made you more money? It just looks wierd thats about all, but to be fair, if you are in this to make money, then I wouldn't suggest buying in either town and instead recommend looking in Homer Glen or Lemont and even Lockport right near 355. Those properties are going to yeild the highest returns. Here is some info on the returns on average Orland's homes are producing. MONEY Magazine: Best places to live 2006: Orland Park, IL snapshot

Another thing is you mention a "newly renovated library" as if Orland doesn't have one of those.. You are right, Orland's is BRAND NEW. The Orland Park Public Library : About Us

Lastly, of the mentioned things for kids in Hinsdale, Orland has all of. There is a great indoor youth soccer program that goes on at the Orland Park Sportsplex as well as tons of other activities and clubs for kids and if you live in Orland you get a huge discount on the prices for those clubs. Orland Park - Recreation

About the only negatives you are CURRENTLY correct on is the lack of a downtown, but again that is too going to change. http://www.orland-park.il.us/econdev...onceptplan.pdf And no there aren't that many tree lined streets as of yet, but they are growing, so look at Orland's streets in 10 years and see what happens.

Nobody said that southside kids and their parents were not intelligent or educated, and they are certainly not hicks, otherwise my wife and all of the relatives would fit that description!! Holy cow, hopefully it didn't come off like that, but I think you are alittle (maybe alot) sensitive. Orland has a lot more people in the trades I would say than the Hinsdale area does, therefore some not needing to go to college ( I sure wish I had their skills) and probably alot more company owners who are in trade professions than Hinsdale, as opposed to professions such as medicine and law. That doesn't mean that there are not plenty of professionals in Orland, however.

As far as real estate prices, I stand by what I said. In 1992,I had the choice to purchase a house in Orland or the Hinsdale area. The one in Orland was $175 k, the one in the Hinsdale area was a fixer listed at $189k. I chose to buy in the one in the Hinsdale area. In 2003, I sold the Hinsdale area house for almost $800k by owner to someone who just wanted the lot for a teardown, and bought another house for $25K more, whose worth is now over $1 million, even in this market. The $175k house in Orland today is worth $325K. Which do you think was a better investment? Last year Hinsdale went up 13% in value, Orland fell 4%.

Those "secret" paths you are talking about I have had to use for years to avoid the traffic in Orland. Because I know Orland so well, I bet you do not even know the streets I use through quiet subdivisions to avoid the lights and the traffic on north south routes, finally ending up at 123rd street in Palos Park. in order to finally sail clear on the road north on La Grange Road.

As far as the schools, my relatives kids go to school at one school from K-2, then another from 3-5, then another from 6-8, and then high school. That is ridiculous, and I feel sorry for the kids !!! And sorry, Carl Sandburg might be good, but score wise doesn't compare to Hinsdale Central.

I have nothing against the south side, and it has alot going for it (in fact I still feel very attached to it), but come on, things are what they are, and I stand by everything that I said here.

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Old 01-17-2008, 04:02 PM
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Correct, but when one goes as far to say, the pluses to a town are this town has "intelligent well educated people, and well rounded kids" it looks like they are saying that the other doesn't and it is just a town of dumb *****es and punks. So, sorry to point that out as I am just a big SILLY *****!
I certainly didnt get that from her post. Never crossed my mind that Orland didnt have well rounded kids/intelligent people. the info was her opinion and experience just like yours.----big silly : )

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Old 01-17-2008, 05:30 PM
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I think we all know Orland is a great town with some very, very affordable homes (much nicer homes for the money than Hinsdale - and I say this because I have been shopping for homes in both Hinsdale and Orland), but you won't see the same crazy appreciation you have seen in Hinsdale or the city because of the availability of land - there is still a lot of space for new homes. Hinsdale does not have that amount of land for new development so existing land is worth that much more.

Anyway, Hinsdale Central is one of the top schools in the state and test-score wise it is better than Sandburg, Andrew, Lincoln-Way (any direction) et all, but that is not a slam, Hinsdale Central is better than most public schools in Chicagoland with the exception if maybe 4 or 5, also leading to the high property values.

Anyway, in my opinion, if you are willing to sacrifice on house/yard size Hinsdale is a great place. If you are looking for more value for your housing dollar with the potential (please noter I said potential - not a sure thing) for more appreciation in the next 10 years or so when the land around I-355 fills up, Orland is a great choice.

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:58 PM
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Nobody said that southside kids and their parents were not intelligent or educated, and they are certainly not hicks, otherwise my wife and all of the relatives would fit that description!! Holy cow, hopefully it didn't come off like that, but I think you are alittle (maybe alot) sensitive. Orland has a lot more people in the trades I would say than the Hinsdale area does, therefore some not needing to go to college ( I sure wish I had their skills) and probably alot more company owners who are in trade professions than Hinsdale, as opposed to professions such as medicine and law. That doesn't mean that there are not plenty of professionals in Orland, however.

As far as real estate prices, I stand by what I said. In 1992,I had the choice to purchase a house in Orland or the Hinsdale area. The one in Orland was $175 k, the one in the Hinsdale area was a fixer listed at $189k. I chose to buy in the one in the Hinsdale area. In 2003, I sold the Hinsdale area house for almost $800k by owner to someone who just wanted the lot for a teardown, and bought another house for $25K more, whose worth is now over $1 million, even in this market. The $175k house in Orland today is worth $325K. Which do you think was a better investment? Last year Hinsdale went up 13% in value, Orland fell 4%.

Those "secret" paths you are talking about I have had to use for years to avoid the traffic in Orland. Because I know Orland so well, I bet you do not even know the streets I use through quiet subdivisions to avoid the lights and the traffic on north south routes, finally ending up at 123rd street in Palos Park. in order to finally sail clear on the road north on La Grange Road.

As far as the schools, my relatives kids go to school at one school from K-2, then another from 3-5, then another from 6-8, and then high school. That is ridiculous, and I feel sorry for the kids !!! And sorry, Carl Sandburg might be good, but score wise doesn't compare to Hinsdale Central.

I have nothing against the south side, and it has alot going for it (in fact I still feel very attached to it), but come on, things are what they are, and I stand by everything that I said here.

Those secret paths you speak of... Would you be talking about 135th to 85th Ave to 131st (left) to 86th Ave north to rte 83??? Used to use that rte over a decade ago to get to and from Moraine Valley. I know them all if it has to do with this area, worked delivering pizzas years ago in college, so Palos Park, Orland Park, Tinley Park, Orland Hills, Homer Glen, and yes sadly enough we even delivered to Lockport (10 miles round trip for a measly $3 ) lol anyways, so, yes I am extremely well versed in this entire area as well as the less fortunate burbs to the east of here.

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Old 01-30-2008, 02:37 PM
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Thanks for responses here, all your comments are appreciated. I am thinking that Hinsdale would definately be my choice.. if I didn't have kids. I think it's important to raise them being exposed to some economic diversity (like Orland has), so that they will have a better appreciation for things in life. I think Hinsdale may be like living in a bubble for that reason? if majority is upper-class?
I really like the location (close to airports, Oak Brook mall) of Hinsdale, and I prefer the charming architecture that it's homes have to offer. Love the idea of a downtown area. I guess it'll be a place I would definately plan on moving to, once the kids are done with school.. ?

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:16 AM
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Why are you comparing Hinsdale to Orland? Two complete opposites. Why not compare Hinsdale with Palos Park (adjacent to Orland) so you still have quick access to all the shopping in the same way Hinsdale has Oak Brook shopping.

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