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Old 07-15-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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I am still confused. Are you saying you are hurt that you friend would rather move to a west suburb than remain your neighbor? Or are you worried that when your friend moves to the west suburb that will trigger a wave of the existing neighbors to move away? That seems really unlikely...

In either case wouldn't your friend by more of a "ground breaker" than they would be remaining in an area that historically has had a larger presence of folks with their pigmentation?

For myself I already know that no one set of skin pigmentation has a lock on any mindsets/ values / experiences.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:21 PM
 
Location: South Chicagoland
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@Urza216, I never said there was anything wrong with the public schools. It's a choice we made being raised Catholic and wanting them to have that same foundation.

Chet...my point was that even though someone may think we're a great family, some would still choose not to live next to a family of a different race just because of stereotypes, etc. Just commenting on my experience. I just hope one day people will realize people of the same ethnicity or religion do not have the same experiences/mindsets/values. There's diversity within every culture, too.
I think that in this day and age, white people are still very racist. But it's modernized. I think the classic model of one black family moving in and white people wanting to move is simply NOT THE CASE AT ALL. In fact, racist white people want nothing more than to have one black family on thier block, vote for a black presidential candidate and have one black friend.. And then they can tell everyone about the black family on their block, how thier black friend agrees with every racist comment they make and how they voted for Obama. "Clearly I have no problem with black people.. I have one black family on my block! Did I tell you how WELCOME I made them feel when I moved in too? I did? Well, let me tell you more about it!!"

So yeah, I'm not saying move to Tinley Park or Dupage County or whatever. I'm just saying I don't think your assessment of the way white people are in this day and age is accurate.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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Urza216, I think we actually agree more than disagree. My friend who is moving to an all-white suburb is white. She's not moving because of that reason. That's where a lot of family is and homes in price range they're looking for. She was encouraging me to look at homes where she's moving and my Point is that I don't want to necessarily be that maverick Family anymore and deal with a hostile environment. I agree, racism is sometimes more subtle in this day and age, but absolutely it still exists. The references i read here to the "urban influence" are transparent. People should just say "there are too many blacks moving in" and not sugar coat the reference. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised if I ever move to a southwest suburb and no one will think twice about my race. That would be fantastic. Surprising but fantastic.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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But there is diffence between "urban influence" and just pigmentation, don't you think? I know a guy at work whose pigmentation is pretty much the same as Busta Rhymes but he grew up in a pretty quiet area, went to a very demanding college is frankly one of the squarer dressing men in the whole department. He drives a Toyota Solara and is about as low key person as I can think of. In contrast I have friend that lives in suburban Wood Dale in a nice little developent of homes that are probably are little too opulent for the area. Recently a minor "celebrity athelete" moved in and the flashy cars, parties that last far too late for weeknights and non-stop comngs and goings are not really enhancing the quality of life for the folks that are expected to open their businesses 5+ days a week. While this particular athelete did not grow up in a "urban area" per se their choice in music and the preferred wardrobe of his females guests in the recent weather suggests they might be mistaking Wood Dale for the neighborhood in Miami FL that Pitbull calls homes...
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