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Old 08-07-2008, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Racism are you serious? Yorktown is highly overcrowded with cars and no one is taking the bus to get to the mall so they took it out of the equation.
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:38 PM
 
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Plenty of people take the bus to get there. I have seen them with my own eyes.

Pace was shocked by the decision, so that oughta tell you something.
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:37 PM
 
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Plenty of people take the bus to get there. I have seen them with my own eyes.

Pace was shocked by the decision, so that oughta tell you something.
Yeah it tells me something all right. It tells me some things in Chicago haven't changed. I've been to many cities around the country where even the poorest neighborhoods have access to stores other than those of the liquor variety within a 3 mile radius. This is still not the case in Chicago. Another latent effect of this that is rarely mentioned is the fact a large amount of educated African-Americans leave Chicago. Gee, I wonder why?
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:34 PM
 
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Yeah it tells me something all right. It tells me some things in Chicago haven't changed. I've been to many cities around the country where even the poorest neighborhoods have access to stores other than those of the liquor variety within a 3 mile radius. This is still not the case in Chicago. Another latent effect of this that is rarely mentioned is the fact a large amount of educated African-Americans leave Chicago. Gee, I wonder why?
Uhhh the Pace route and mall mentioned are in the suburbs not in the city.

If you mean to say the Chicago area say the Chicago area. Only use Chicago when you are speaking of the city itself.
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:02 PM
 
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I work in the area (I drive). I pass Yorktown every day. Not everyone that takes the bus to the mall are customers. Some are employees of stores within the mall. I think that this decision is lame and should be reversed. Walking along Butterfield Road, that does not have sidewalks is more dangerous than allowing buses into the Yorktown Mall lot. Plus the lot is huge and there is ample room by JC Penney's to allow for buses. How stupid to make it more difficult for shoppers and employees who don't drive to get to the mall. Unless retail stores in the mall want to start paying $13.00 an hour, they should protest against the mall management and RTA for this policy to change.
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:24 PM
 
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Uhhh the Pace route and mall mentioned are in the suburbs not in the city.

If you mean to say the Chicago area say the Chicago area. Only use Chicago when you are speaking of the city itself.
Why? When people from the Chicago area travel they always say they are from "Chicago". And that's whether they are from Chicago, New Lenox or even Racine.
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:28 PM
 
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But you are not traveling now.
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:13 AM
 
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The elderly and disabled were forced to walk onto butterfield rd is all types of weather which was dangerous and there are people who are unable to get to and from locations because of those changes in the mall. the fact is they within the Mall did not want the poorer classes within the mall area there has been a lot of harrassment of folks that don't seem to belong there it is racism and discrimination against the elderly, disabled and poor. No other mall does that look at Riverside, Schaumbug Malls they have common sense they want buyers not even in Oakbrook have they done this. It's outrageous and they are planning to start it up again from what I heard.
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:28 AM
 
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The elderly and disabled were forced to walk onto butterfield rd is all types of weather which was dangerous and there are people who are unable to get to and from locations because of those changes in the mall. the fact is they within the Mall did not want the poorer classes within the mall area there has been a lot of harrassment of folks that don't seem to belong there it is racism and discrimination against the elderly, disabled and poor. No other mall does that look at Riverside, Schaumbug Malls they have common sense they want buyers not even in Oakbrook have they done this. It's outrageous and they are planning to start it up again from what I heard.
And look at Northriverside mall now- it feels like walking through the west side of Chicago ghetto. Nice.
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Lynwood,IL
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I've seen this before at River Oaks Mall. The bus stops at Target so if you were trying to get to the mall, you would have to cross Ring Rd then walk across the large River Oaks West big box center parking lot. After that you have to find a traffic light and wait your turn to cross Torrance Ave. FINALLY you have to walk across another LARGE parking lot for the mall doors or Macy*s/ Carson Pirie Scott/ JCPenny. All in all about a 15-20min walk.
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