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01-23-2009, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Avengerfire
Well perhaps it is really because actually most Greeks,Italians, Irish, Jews and Arabs ARE CAUCASIAN or if you prefer Caucasoid.
The races are not based off of skin color my friend they are based off of skull structure and skull form.
Greek, Italian, Hebrew, etc. are not RACES, they are ethnicities!!!
Wow what a concept huh?
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I know that already, I don't need a lesson on race. I stand clear, it possible they added Italians, Irish, Greeks, and Arabs as white for population gain.
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01-23-2009, 02:04 AM
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The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
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Originally Posted by Chicagoland60426
I know that already, I don't need a lesson on race. I stand clear, it possible they added Italians, Irish, Greeks, and Arabs as white for population gain.
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Uhhh whatever. Most Italians, Irish, Greeks ARE WHITE or considered white in skin color with a decent number of Arabs as well. I would say a overwhelming percentage of these groups are considered "white" by skin color than the percentage of blacks that are considered black (in the true sense of the term.)
There is a decent percentage of American blacks that look way more white than they do "black."
I do not understand where you are going with this.
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01-23-2009, 08:52 AM
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Spent some time in Northern Africa (Morrocco and Algeria) and the locals pointed out where "the blacks" lived. It was very hard for me to distinguish between the Arabs and "the blacks" (Berbers) there. The blacks were very light-skinned and, to me, looked like the other Arabs/Spanish who were pointing them out. But maybe it was about skull formation... 
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01-23-2009, 08:59 AM
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There are some places you might consider in Kentucky or Arkansas. If you are in a jet doing at least Mach 1, you should be within 45 minutes of Chicago.
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01-23-2009, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by IlWesleyanGuy
I can stay that fortunately none of this has never happened to me and hopefully never will. If it has happened to you then I'm sorry. With that being said it think what I previously posted still stands, so let me restate. WHy are people posting things like it is an asset to have one minority and a burden to have another. Am I the only one who feels this view is superficial. This is an ignorant and arrogant view/comment. Like many who have posted even on this thread, its deeper than race or skin color. You have to take a look at education, poverty and environment. And maybe the minorities that bungalowdweller described have had bad experiences with these factors. I'm sorry but I cannot look at a person and determine that he or she is an asset or not an asset, respectable or not respectable based on their race. For communities, it is an asset to have hardworking, productive, respectable, intelligent, well-informed and caring citizens. This kind of citizen is not limited to one or two particular races.
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when a few minorities move into an existing neighborhood with a different race, that neighborhood stays the same. thus, the long lasting residents have no qualms. however, when those minority numbers start to reach the 40-50% level, those new inhabitants no longer conform to the neighborhoods old/orginial ways which creates many problems and tensions.
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01-23-2009, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avengerfire
Well perhaps it is really because actually most Greeks,Italians, Irish, Jews and Arabs ARE CAUCASIAN or if you prefer Caucasoid.
The races are not based off of skin color my friend they are based off of skull structure and skull form.
Greek, Italian, Hebrew, etc. are not RACES, they are ethnicities!!!
Wow what a concept huh?
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You do realize that all of the skull measuring pseudo science has been WIDELY discredited, right?... Hitler was heavily into that B.S., by the way. Race is a social construct. While members of the same race share certain genetic characteristics, there are greater genetic differences within a race than between races. For example, some "black" tribes in Africa have more in common genetically with the French than they do with Africans on the other side of the continent.... And so on...
Why are we talking about this again? Oh yeah-- Promis1 associates diversity with liberalism, which is totally B.S. This guy has no clue. Most conservatives today have no problem with other races--in spite of what many liberals may say. Being racist is not a conservative view, though Promis1 seems to think differently. He should make ads for the Democrats!
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01-23-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lookout Kid
You do realize that all of the skull measuring pseudo science has been WIDELY discredited, rightl... Race is a social construct. While members of the same race share certain genetic characteristics, there are greater genetic differences within a race than between races. For example, some tribes in Africa have more in common genetically with the French than they do with Africans on the other side of the continent...
Why are we talking about this again? Oh yeah-- Promis1 associates diversity with liberalism, which is totally B.S. This guy has no clue. Most conservatives today have no problem with other races--in spite of what many liberals may say. Being racist is not a conservative view, though Promis1 seems to think differently. He should make ads for the Democrats!
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Yeah, and men have more in common biologically with women than with other men, right?
Do you honestly think anybody with an IQ of at least room temperature will believe that a French man has more in common, biologically, with a Hutu, than he does with a German or an Italian? Or that a Hutu has more in common, biologically, with a Serbian or a Polish man, than he does with a Tutsi or a Zulu?
Are you smoking crack or is this just some new-age "we're all identical in every way, obvious differences be damned" quasi-religious marxist sales pitch.
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01-23-2009, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lookout Kid
Hitler was heavily into that B.S.,
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Hitler was also a vegetarian, and he was an artist... Thus all vegetarians and artists must be evil, right?
Reductio ad Hitlerum...
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01-23-2009, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lookout Kid
You do realize that all of the skull measuring pseudo science has been WIDELY discredited, right?... Hitler was heavily into that B.S., by the way. Race is a social construct. While members of the same race share certain genetic characteristics, there are greater genetic differences within a race than between races. For example, some "black" tribes in Africa have more in common genetically with the French than they do with Africans on the other side of the continent.... And so on...
Why are we talking about this again? Oh yeah-- Promis1 associates diversity with liberalism, which is totally B.S. This guy has no clue. Most conservatives today have no problem with other races--in spite of what many liberals may say. Being racist is not a conservative view, though Promis1 seems to think differently. He should make ads for the Democrats!
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You start by explaining how race is just a social construct, how it has no biological component. In essence, it isn't real...
You then go on to say there are more genetic differences within groups than between groups... Which is it? If race isn't real, how can there be any genetic differences? You want it both ways, right?
Imagine if I tried to say, "Mars doesn't exist, but Mars is part of our Solar System" people would laugh themselves to death ridiculing me.
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01-23-2009, 02:51 PM
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Sayer of true stuff
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Originally Posted by OhioUberAlles
You start by explaining how race is just a social construct, how it has no biological component. In essence, it isn't real...
You then go on to say there are more genetic differences within groups than between groups... Which is it? If race isn't real, how can there be any genetic differences? You want it both ways, right?
Imagine if I tried to say, "Mars doesn't exist, but Mars is part of our Solar System" people would laugh themselves to death ridiculing me.
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Congratulations on writing the most bizarre and ridiculous logic I've heard in a very long time.
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