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Old 01-23-2009, 02:54 PM
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Congratulations on writing the most bizarre and ridiculous logic I've heard in a very long time.

Can you explain his logic to me?

He categorically denies that race exists, that it has any biological component...

He then begins discussing the genetic (biological) differences that exist between people who are of the same race (something he just said doesn't even exist) as opposed to those who are of a different race (again, something he just said doesn't even exist).

He wants to deny race even exists, that it is a biological reality, so he doesn't have to deal with it. Yet he wants to simultaneously proclaim it exists, for the purpose of saying it is irrelevant and trying to demonstrate that people of "different races" are closer together than people of "similar races" which runs contrary to common sense.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:26 PM
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He categorically denies that race exists, that it has any biological component...

He then begins discussing the genetic (biological) differences that exist between people who are of the same race (something he just said doesn't even exist) as opposed to those who are of a different race (again, something he just said doesn't even exist).
You need to learn to read. I said that there are genetic differences between people of different races, but that they aren't as significant as many people think. Saying that race is largely a social construct isn't the same as saying it doesn't exist. Not even close there buddy...

But of course, none of this would offend you or prompt rapid fire ultra-stupid angry responses if you weren't some sort of creepy white supremacist. Go away, troll. This is about the Chicago suburbs. It's bad enough that Promis1 already made it about race.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:30 PM
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You need to learn to read. I said that there are genetic differences between people of different races, but that they aren't as significant as many people think. Saying that race is largely a social construct isn't the same as saying it doesn't exist. Not even close there buddy...

But of course, none of this would offend you or prompt rapid fire ultra-stupid angry responses if you weren't some sort of creepy white supremacist. Go away, troll. This is about the Chicago suburbs. It's bad enough that Promis1 already made it about race.

Creepy white supremacist? Troll?

What's that I hear... Did somebody just run out of substantive things to say...

Would I automatically win a debate if I started shouting four letter words at my opponent? Maybe you need to brush up on debate etiquette. When you resort to petty name-calling and insults, it typically means you have nothing else to say and thus you've lost.

If race is a social construct, then everybody in my hometown should be able to make me Chinese by acting as though I am Chinese, right?

Mind over matter! Something like that, right?

I'm a heterosexual White male... Construct me into being a homosexual Chinese female...

I've heard it told that race is a social construct, gender is a social construct, sexual orientiation/identity is a social construct... So go ahead, will me into being a homosexual Chinese female. Would you like to wave a magic wand or would you prefer to conduct a public relations campaign to convince my neighbors that I really am a homosexual Chinese female.

A social construct is basically a social agreement... If society agrees I am a homosexual Chinese female, does that make it so?

If society agrees the Earth is flat, does that make it so?
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:33 PM
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Creepy white supremacist? Troll?

What's that I hear... Did somebody just run out of substantive things to say...

Would I automatically win a debate if I started shouting four letter words at my opponent? Maybe you need to brush up on debate etiquette. When you resort to petty name-calling and insults, it typically means you have nothing else to say and thus you've lost.

If race is a social construct, then everybody in my hometown should be able to make me Chinese by acting as though I am Chinese, right?

Mind over matter! Something like that, right?

I'm a heterosexual White male... Construct me into being a homosexual Chinese female...

I've heard it told that race is a social construct, gender is a social construct, sexual orientiation/identity is a social construct... So go ahead, will me into being a homosexual Chinese female. Would you like to wave a magic wand or would you prefer to conduct a public relations campaign to convince my neighbors that I really am a homosexual Chinese female.

A social construct is basically a social agreement... If society agrees I am a homosexual Chinese female, does that make it so?

If society agrees the Earth is flat, does that make it so?

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:36 PM
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"Chinese" is an ethnicity, not a race.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:36 PM
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You make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If I can get a social agreement that I make sense, will that mean I make sense?

Forms/concepts exist as they are in a state of reality, as an intangible form that we cannot perceive (except when it represents itself in a limited capacity in something we can tangibly identify with). Whether or not we agree with it doesn't change reality. I really suggest you read Plato.

I can get 50 people to agree to vote "yes" to the idea that Austria-Hungary is still an Empire and that it didn't fall as a result of WW1, but that doesn't change reality.

I can get ten thousand people to vote "yes" that the Earth is flat, but that doesn't make it so...

If you want to claim I make no sense, please specify in what regards, and please elaborate... Otherwise you're just a one-sentence thug looking to pick an online fight. Anybody can dart into a thread, shout, "you make absolutely zero sense" and duck out... Either show it/prove it, or withdraw the remark and move on with your life.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:37 PM
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"Chinese" is an ethnicity, not a race.

So the power of social construct doesn't extend that far?

Okay, make me a generic Asian (you can pick the ethnicity), but don't forget the homosexual female part...

Socially construct me into it...

And... BEGIN!
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:39 PM
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...thug looking to pick an online fight.
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Anybody can dart into a thread, shout, "you make absolutely zero sense" and duck out...
Sound like anyone we know? Go back to the Ohio boards. Or better yet, "racistskinheadidiots.com" or wherever you losers hang out these days.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:42 PM
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So the power of social construct doesn't extend that far?

Okay, make me a generic Asian (you can pick the ethnicity), but don't forget the homosexual female part...

Socially construct me into it...

And... BEGIN!
"Asia" is a location. Like "African" or "European". Try again.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:46 PM
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"Asia" is a location. Like "African" or "European". Try again.

Okay, make me into ANYTHING other than a heterosexual White male... Your pick...

I've been waiting... I'm still a heterosexual White male...

Do you ever plan on simply admitting that you cannot construct somebody into being something they are not?
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