What do you think the next suburb to experience white flight will be? (Humboldt: activity, racist)

[promis1]

Originally Posted by At1WithNature

yeah, i hear you. i actually am one of the few white people to work for the state of illinois here in chicago. there are mostly black, then whites/latinos with a couple asians. bottomline is these people i get along with because they have jobs and seem to value many of the things that i do. it's just that large amount of people (%) of certain groups that DO NOT value the things that I and my fellow co-workers do that gets me going because that HAS TO CHANGE! other than that, i'm all good. it may seem like i am pointing out flaws in a certain group or picking on another one but the bottomline is REALITY. and reality is what it is. thus, i am commenting on it.

Great point- I tried repping you, but they would not allow me to.

[Baroness-Ann]

BRU, a lot of people say that it's not the fault of the residents of impoverished, crime-ridden neighborhoods for being in the position that they are in, but I am afraid that people like you aren't looking at the big picture, or don't want to look at the big picture. The truth is, like it or not, THEY ARE AT FAULT! People on the west and south sides of the city don't have to be in the position that they're in, but obviously they must like it, because they stay in it.
They have literally an unlimited number of opportunities to succeed in life-get a good education and stay in school, get a high-paying job, live in a better area-the list goes on and on! These people are just lazy, and they will remain in the horrific position they're in if they continue to be this way. I just wish they would stop using the energy they have to come into, and tear up, the nicest neighborhoods and towns, such as the southern suburbs.
I don't know about you, but I don't feel sorry for these people not one bit!

[Huckleberry3911948]

when anybody of any color stops ignoring escalating crime in their neighborhood and feels a huge loss on the sale of their house beats being mugged or raped. when smart people of any color figure out lousy parents chanting boys will be boys does not work for them.

[icebergsyndrome]

Originally Posted by Baroness-Ann

BRU, a lot of people say that it's not the fault of the residents of impoverished, crime-ridden neighborhoods for being in the position that they are in, but I am afraid that people like you aren't looking at the big picture, or don't want to look at the big picture. The truth is, like it or not, THEY ARE AT FAULT! People on the west and south sides of the city don't have to be in the position that they're in, but obviously they must like it, because they stay in it.
They have literally an unlimited number of opportunities to succeed in life-get a good education and stay in school, get a high-paying job, live in a better area-the list goes on and on! These people are just lazy, and they will remain in the horrific position they're in if they continue to be this way. I just wish they would stop using the energy they have to come into, and tear up, the nicest neighborhoods and towns, such as the southern suburbs.
I don't know about you, but I don't feel sorry for these people not one bit!

Ah yes, poor people have more opportunities than rich people and destroy working class neighborhoods for sport. How did I miss that!?! /sarcasm

[bungalowdweller]

Originally Posted by icebergsyndrome

Ah yes, poor people have more opportunities than rich people and destroy working class neighborhoods for sport. How did I miss that!?! /sarcasm

I know that you're being sarcastic, but there is truth in your post. The poor have nothing to lose which is why so many of them don't stay poor. They take risks and go after whatever they can get, they succeed, get out of the neighborhoods their bros trashed and move on. Their kids do better. It's their grandkids who suddenly lack the testicular fortitude to do what's right and they succeed in squandering what the previous two generations created. Every 3 generations fortunes are lost and people start over. That's been discussed and documented in too many places to count. That's the opportunity of America.

As for the poor destroying working class neighborhoods, that's been well documented too. I guess you never lived in one of those neighborhoods and experienced first hand the destruction the criminal element brings in.

The poverty of the people is not the issue. Poverty does not breed crime. ATTITUDE breeds crime. Anti-social behavior breeds crime. Refusal to take personal responsibility breeds crime. Feelings of entitlement and being the "exception" because I'm (fill in the blank) black, Mexican, etc. breeds crime.

Most working class neighborhoods of Chicago and inner ring burbs that were white had l-o-w crime stats. That's why minorities have flocked to them in recent years. They are running away from their own people. They will tell you that themselves.

[bungalowdweller]

And all that being said, I don't think that we'll be seeing much white flight from anywhere for awhile. I read an interesting scholarly paper about baby boomers, net worth, and their property values. I'm assuming that most of the people posting here are not boomers---you're all younger,but it's interesting to read about what has happened to the financial prospects for those due to retire in 15 years or less. It's not a pretty picture. It appears that most of the boomers would have to bring cash to the table in order to sell their homes. http://www.cepr.net/documents/public...th-2009-02.pdf

[promis1]

White flight will always exist until there is nowhere else to run.

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by Baroness-Ann

BRU, a lot of people say that it's not the fault of the residents of impoverished, crime-ridden neighborhoods for being in the position that they are in, but I am afraid that people like you aren't looking at the big picture, or don't want to look at the big picture. The truth is, like it or not, THEY ARE AT FAULT! People on the west and south sides of the city don't have to be in the position that they're in, but obviously they must like it, because they stay in it!

I don't? I just got bashed in the grocery store thread for holding them largely accountable for their miserable overall health situation, versus the agricultural subsidies, Government and the Corporate America fast food conglomerate that some feel are truly at fault.

Unfortunately, unless you latch on to one side of the black line or the other, there's going to be a large group who won't understand where you're coming from. What if the problem has multiple sides? Bah! It couldn't.

[promis1]

Originally Posted by BRU67

I don't? I just got bashed in the grocery store thread for holding them largely accountable for their miserable overall health situation, versus the agricultural subsidies, Government and the Corporate America fast food conglomerate that some feel are truly at fault.

Unfortunately, unless you latch on to one side of the black line or the other, there's going to be a large group who won't understand where you're coming from. What if the problem has multiple sides? Bah! It couldn't.

Vote for Bob Lovero on April 7th in Berwyn!

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by promis1

Vote for Bob Lovero on April 7th in Berwyn!

Why, is he going to address agricultural subsidies, the Government and the Corporate America fast food conglomerate? Otherwise, that one kind of came out of left field!