02-07-2009, 11:29 AM
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I live in Glenview, in the Glen. I have tried to like Wilmette, Winnetka, Glencoe, Kenilworth but I just don't get it. Why would someone want to live in a house with power lines in their backyard? We had $1.5 to spend 5 years ago and I just couldn't wrap my head around the appeal of those older houses with crappy back yards where you can almost touch your neighbor and with absolutely no privacy. I saw the houses in the Southgate portion of the Glen and knew that was right for us. I understand that some of the homes are architecturally "important" in some north shore towns but certainly not all of those homes are. Where I live the people are friendly and extremely social (if you want that) and there are a million kids (again I happen to like that since I have kids). We have SIDEWALKS which encourage socializing. So, why would a family choose Wilmette/Kenilworth etc. over say, Glenview, Deerfield, or Northbrook. Is it so you can say, "Oh, I live here or there east of Greenbay Road?" and impress your co-workers? Schools in Glenview and Northbrook are excellent also. The test scores are not as good as New Trier, but they are still really, really good schools. Please explain. Maybe I just don't appreciate classic architecture. Also, for those of you that live in those "A" suburbs, what is the general impression of the Glen?
02-07-2009, 11:48 AM
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To each his own...that's what makes a market
Agree....old houses on tiny lots are mockable (at any price)
But most people operate w/various financial and social constraints
New Trier schools are prob best public schools in Chic area...in terms of what % of kids enter top 5 colleges...gotta get a high-pay job eventually, right?
"Sidewalk" culture isn't really compatible w/areas where houses are on >1 acre lots
Always amused by how allegedly affluent people buy (and live in) used houses w/stench of prior occupant....and/or old houses w/o latest HVAC, wiring, insulation, amenities, etc....cars depreciate; logically, used houses should depreciate down to land value
If have ample resources, would opt to build a bespoke, new house on either 2+ acre lot on Winnetka lakefront or 2+ acres in eastern LakeForest....but most lack such resources and choose among various trade-offs
02-07-2009, 03:52 PM
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I live on a tiny lot. As I sit here typing I can see power lines in my backyard and if I stretch my hand far enough, I can touch my neighbor's house (when I don't want to touch my neighbor, I go to my house in WI). However, this morning I walked to get coffee and to the beach. I can walk just about anywhere. I can hop on my bike and be on the Green Bay Trail in a couple of minutes. I can go north or south on the trail and be in any number of charming downtowns. I like the architecture of older homes, big old tree lined streets, less traffic. People are friendly here too. I don't get your concern about sidewalks. In most parts of the North Shore there are sidewalks and people actually use them.
To be honest, I've never given the Glen much thought either way. I think it's a nice place with nice homes, and that they did a good job of making it appealing. I wouldn't live there simply because I like the beauty of the North Shore, being close to Lake Michigan, and close to Metra. I would consistently choose any of the towns from Evanston up through Lake Bluff over the towns you mentioned. If I didn't care about the Lake, I'd probably look at living in LaGrange, Hinsdale, Glen Elyn, or Western Springs because they seem similar in appearance to the towns on the North Shore.
If I'd wanted a bigger home, I'd have moved somewhere else. Having a large home holds no appeal for me, just like having a power line in your backyard is not appealing to you. I don't even notice the power lines. Different strokes and all that.
I'm glad you made the right choice for you!
02-07-2009, 08:01 PM
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I live in Glenview, in the Glen. I have tried to like Wilmette, Winnetka, Glencoe, Kenilworth but I just don't get it. Why would someone want to live in a house with power lines in their backyard? We had $1.5 to spend 5 years ago and I just couldn't wrap my head around the appeal of those older houses with crappy back yards where you can almost touch your neighbor and with absolutely no privacy. I saw the houses in the Southgate portion of the Glen and knew that was right for us. I understand that some of the homes are architecturally "important" in some north shore towns but certainly not all of those homes are. Where I live the people are friendly and extremely social (if you want that) and there are a million kids (again I happen to like that since I have kids). We have SIDEWALKS which encourage socializing. So, why would a family choose Wilmette/Kenilworth etc. over say, Glenview, Deerfield, or Northbrook. Is it so you can say, "Oh, I live here or there east of Greenbay Road?" and impress your co-workers? Schools in Glenview and Northbrook are excellent also. The test scores are not as good as New Trier, but they are still really, really good schools. Please explain. Maybe I just don't appreciate classic architecture. Also, for those of you that live in those "A" suburbs, what is the general impression of the Glen?
so what if there are power lines in the backyard? A lot of people like the older look instead of cookie cutter houses. There are parts of Glenview with big yards and no sidewalks as well. I'm also not an advocate of large yards, it's wasteful and sprawl isn't good.
02-07-2009, 09:25 PM
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It definitely must be a matter of personal preference, lots of people like to live in houses with classic looks. My dad grew up in Winnetka on Forest Ave., went to New Trier, once he met my mom, got married they lived in Evanston where I grew up.
When I go to Google and look up the address on Forest, a big modern home has replaced the house with the screened front porch, my grandparents had. They raised 7 kids in that home but I'm sure if it wasn't updated it needed to go (dad was youngest born in 1914) to give you a clue, very old. Point is the new house takes up a great deal of the lot and I don't think it looks great! The next person would say, awesome new house, nice yard, a matter of personal taste.
I've always preferred older homes, classic looks, new style houses are not my cup of tea no matter where they are located, but that is just me and my opinion, lots of people prefer new homes.
02-07-2009, 10:19 PM
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My aunt and uncle lived in Kenilworth, on Park Drive, beautiful brick Georgian, their home and neighborhood are lovely.
02-08-2009, 09:21 PM
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My aunt and uncle lived in Kenilworth, on Park Drive, beautiful brick Georgian, their home and neighborhood are lovely.
Was it Lannon stone?
02-08-2009, 09:27 PM
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What do people on the NS thnk of the homes in the Glen? Not much and not often. Cookie cutter subdivision homes with no mature landscaping, full of transferees and with a high rate of mortgage defaults. Its perfectly nice but pretty blaah.
If you like where you live why would you care what other people think about your community? Or be so defensive?
The NS communities are extremely family oriented and very social. Why do you think we have so many clubs? Or pour so much money into our schools?
I also dont understand your coments about ***SIDEWALKS***
If you really looked at house in Winnetka/Kenilworth/Wilmette you might have noticed that they all have sidewalks.
BTW - the Kenilworth power lines have been buried for over 20 years and Winnetka requires power line to be buried when a home is renovated.
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02-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Location: Chicago
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This thread-"I don't get it."
02-09-2009, 08:46 AM
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This thread-"I don't get it."
I think its:
"I moved to the Glen and nobody I work with is impressed, but they thought it was cool when some guy bought a house in Winnetka. Thats not fair. They should be impressed by me too even though I don't live on the NS, I want people to be impressed!!!! By meeeee! I have SIDEWALKS!!!
I had 1.5 Million to spend 5 years ago, but spent less on the Glen, and now my house is worth less than I paid. But that house in Kenilworth my wife liked has appreciated. So did that one in Wilmette. Thats just not fair!!
People on the NS must be snobs, because I said so --Wah! The Glen is better than the NS because ....uh...powerlines....yeah and .....our schools are almost as good, so they must really be better becasue that makes them snobs....yeah."
BTW - another difference between the areas. Most Winnetka/Kenilworth types would know to put this in "Chicago Suburbs" instead of "Illinois". I'm not saying its our superior test scores, but you never know (humor intended).
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People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)