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Old 04-08-2009, 10:28 PM
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I told you this before -- for the far southwest side that prediction dates back to 70s. Ask anybody in Beverly and everyone was sure it would be 100% (non-upscale) black by 1980 latest. The 70s were rough. Lots of people ending up staying though and the flight trend stopped quite a while ago.

I was just reading this year's annual housing survey in the Beverly review -- average income of buyers points to a very different trend. If you define ghetto more racially even then 80-90% of the new buyers were white. I don't see any reason why this would suddenly reverse.

I think parts of Oak Lawn, Evergreen Park, etc. will be majority minority (not necessarily ghetto though) and others not. I don't think Beverly will change much.

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That is because the Far Southwest side is under siege.
It has 10-15 years left maybe less before it turns ghetto.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:30 PM
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Ok, thanks. I'll check it out and expect to see 10,000 square foot homes like the ones that line Longwood drive, the forest perserve in north beverly, seely, hoyne, etc.

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Here are a few:

Northwest Circle, Northeast Circle, Nina, Ardmore, Nicolet...

Louise, Lundy, Meredith, McClellan, Mandell, Prescott, Livermore...
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:27 PM
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Buena Park is about as close as you'll get. But it's a tiny island and the lots are a lot smaller. There are some grand-ass houses there though, and it's home to some movers and shakers like Jim Thompson and the late Studs Terkel. There's also some really nice housing stock in Old Irving Park, and a lot of them are on double lots.
Buena Park is hardly the northwest side, however! It's hard to get more east without swimming... If we're going to count the whole north side, there are some homes on Astor Street I'd hold up against anything in the city.

I was walking up and down Hutchinson Street today, and I really wish I had the money to pick up one of those homes. There are four or five that are just unbelievably stunning. I'd like to get a better view of "Big Jim's" house as he is almost a neighbor, but he has some very serious privacy fencing and plantings around his place. Studs is (or was) actually up in Margate Park on Castlewood. It's another street of grand single-family homes near the lake and surrounded by higher density. Not as nice as the Hutchinson Street district, however.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:34 PM
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Here are a few:

N. West Circle, N. East Circle, Nina, Ardmore, Nicolet, Nickerson...

Louise, Lundy, Meredith, McClellan, Mandell, Prescott, Livermore...

Check out ANY residential street in Edgebrook.

It would take me hours to compile all of the specific places you should check out.

The best and easiest way to see them is to have someone in the car with you that knows the area.
I really like a lot of the houses in Edgebrook and Sauganash. Though there are many rather ordinary homes there too.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:42 PM
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True, but there are many rather ordinary homes in Beverly as well.
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:04 AM
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Sauganash has some really nice homes. I thought somehow we were talking more about neighborhoods west of there.

The most impressive cluster of homes I've seen in the city limits is in Kenwood. The widest variety and number of architecturally interesting homes for me is Beverly. THere are spectacular homes with definitely ordinary ones mixed in, but the range and diversity of architecture and the total number of quality homes is impressive (stretching in spots from 89th to 119th).
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No..the area is not worth the extra taxes...Not even close..the city is awesome but getting more expensive to spend time down there...There great parks/preserves in the suburbs...Neat downtowns..but unless you are from the area it is really hard to justify the increased costs.....the quality of life here is not any better than Atlanta, Dallas, Seattle, etc.
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that is because the far southwest side is under siege.
It has 10-15 years left maybe less before it turns ghetto.
pardon my french when that happens im the **** outta here..
Its clearly the only white side left on the southside, its a shame look what happened to ford city.. Tsk tsk tsk...
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