Turnaround for South Chicagoland (Cicero, Orland Park: section 8, sales, foreclosure)

[deechee]

What do you think places like Glenwood, Hazel Crest, East Hazel Crest, Country Club Hills, Park Forest, and Richton Park, etc. need to do to return to their once beautiful glory days?

Why does it seem to me that the mayor of CCH is always trying to develop land? Why can't the land stay the way it is and become part of the scenery?

What do you all have to say? I like where I live too much for it to become so horrible that I have to move.

[NYrules]

Originally Posted by deechee

What do you think places like Glenwood, Hazel Crest, East Hazel Crest, Country Club Hills, Park Forest, and Richton Park, etc. need to do to return to their once beautiful glory days?

Why does it seem to me that the mayor of CCH is always trying to develop land? Why can't the land stay the way it is and become part of the scenery?

What do you all have to say? I like where I live too much for it to become so horrible that I have to move.

The mayor is trying to develop the land for tax revenue. Haven't you ever played Sim City?

[Opkl]

Originally Posted by NYrules

The mayor is trying to develop the land for tax revenue. Haven't you ever played Sim City?

Yup. Had shopping malls, Wal*Marts, and any other store you could name and still turn the town into a hell hole.

As for deeche's question, be happy that CCH (the hillz) are geting retail. People here in Lynwood would love to have a Super Wal*Mart and so on.
Just the other day I saw a sign on 175th and Cicero about a new outlet mall. Deeche, these stores will most likely bring up your property values if you live near the development.

[deechee]

Originally Posted by NYrules

The mayor is trying to develop the land for tax revenue. Haven't you ever played Sim City?

As if the WalMart and strip mall didn't do enough. I really think he should have more "small-townesque" things introduced to the city to introduce different kinds of people to the town. You know, less "African weave braid shops" and liquor stores, and maybe more boutiques and restaurants to make our town's business competitive with neighbors Homewood and Flossmoor. I don't want urban life, I don't want to be near the "action," I just want a safe bedroom community.

Originally Posted by Opkl

Yup. Had shopping malls, Wal*Marts, and any other store you could name and still turn the town into a hell hole.

As for deeche's question, be happy that CCH (the hillz) are geting retail. People here in Lynwood would love to have a Super Wal*Mart and so on.
Just the other day I saw a sign on 175th and Cicero about a new outlet mall. Deeche, these stores will most likely bring up your property values if you live near the development.

I love Glenwood and Lynwood even though they are having their issues. I love older homes, and as I rode down a Glenwood street the other day and saw children playing, as content as ever near a 1950s raised ranch...I hope that scene doesn't turn into people standing around, doing nothing, selling drugs, prostitution, dilapidated homes, etc.

My property values appreciating would be so wonderful. Not that I'd sell, NO WAY lol. I would like some different people living 'round here ...and pricing certain unsavories out the neighborhood is a good way to go! NO MORE SECTION 8 IN COUNTRY CLUB HILLS!

Even still, I love my CCH! LOL. I'd appreciate other's thoughts!

[NYrules]

Welp sorry, but retail and industry gives the town more tax revenues than it's residents unless the city taxes the crap out of them which only causes residents to flee your town leaving you with empty abandoned homes much like what the Daily Southtown covered last year how one brand new CCHills neighborhood had some 50% of it's brand new homes now either in foreclosure or sitting unsold due to the outragous property taxes ($15,000 a year +).

To look at a properous town use Orland Park as an example; the town takes in SOOOO much money in retail tax revenue that it refunds it's property taxes paid to the village by it's residents, so that said, residents get a check back from the village for their village paid portion of their property taxes come March. The town doesn't even need their money it's making so much in sales tax revenues and retail and industrial taxes.

With no industry and little retail and you have yourself Lockport, where residents are paying $6000 a year in taxes for a townhome and get a limited police force, no waterpark, poor public works department, limited fire rescue, well water, limited sidewalks, limited street lights, limited curbs, freshly repaved streets, etc. All the nice little things residents in the propserous towns take for granted. All those fancy things cost big money. A nice shiney firetruck goes for some $200,000 a piece, those fancy dancy tractors used for mowing the lawns in the common areas go for $56,000 a piece. The waterpark that Orland has? Don't even go there as to what it costs to run that thing a year. Carl Sandburg High School operated under District 230, hundreds of millions... The list goes on and on.

All that said, you want CC Hills to be prosperous, then it needs more retail and industry because the residents can't and won't foot the bill for the town's needs and wants, they (the residents) will just leave and go right over to Tinley or Orland leaving those left behind to pick up the slack. Sorry, but that's life.

[Chicagoland60426]

Orland & Tinley Park are both the largest south/sw suburbs in Cook County with a combine pop of almost 120,000 residents. So that already give them an upper advantage than any South Cook County suburb. And since they are both next to each other, that give them a super commercial retail center along Harlem Ave, Lagrange Rd, and W. 159th St. CCH can use that huge piece of land to build a casino or a mall. CCH also need more sophisicated stores instead of liquor and beauty shops.

[deechee]

Would any of you move to Country Club Hills as it is right now?

Be honest.

[Chuckity]

Originally Posted by deechee

Would any of you move to Country Club Hills as it is right now?

Be honest.

No.

You want to better a community, raise property values, make it a desirable area to live in & raise a family in?

Improve the schools.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by deechee

Would any of you move to Country Club Hills as it is right now?

Be honest.

Well once I move out the south suburbs, I'm either going to the city or out of state. I been living in the burbs all my life and I want to experience the city.

[Opkl]

Originally Posted by deechee

Would any of you move to Country Club Hills as it is right now?

Be honest.

If I was by myself, maybe. Those new homes between Cicero/I-57/183rd/Flossmore Rd are nice. Then again if I was by myself I wouldn't need so much space. The rest of the Hillz (CCH) is too old. I hate areas with a lot of trees. So my answer is no.