Robbins? (Blue Island, Alsip, Midlothian: for sale, foreclosures, houses)

[kb4622]

Bottom line is this: Robbins is a crap town with no future. I feel bad for the residents of Robbins who can't afford to leave and want to. But it is infested with drugs, crime, gangs, and is not salvageable. They threw up some new homes, but they will not last. Stay away.

[bolden]

It would be nice to hear more facts that propaganda concerning Robbins Robbins, Illinois - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Some of our contributors seem to be extreme in their comments about places that they are not very familiar. The city has had an unfortunate downturn, especially with the incinerator which was open for 6-8 months. Robbins is the hometown of Dwayne Wade and Ke ke Palmer (Akeela and the Bee). Robbins was home to the first airport founded by African Americans Aviation Scholarship Foundation/flight scholarships.

Illinois General Assembly Proclamation posthumously honoring Colonel John C. Robinson Jr. Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HR0651


And construction is being completed at the Citgo gas station on 135th and Kedzie. There is ongoing construction of homes along 135th street near the Crestwood boundary. It is correct to note that there are no major shopping areas in the community (pharmacy, grocery, or department stores), but that happens to be common in villages and cities which are previously designated as industrial areas (also Riverdale, Dixmoor, Ford Heights, Burham).

I'm hoping for more factual threads in the future.

[MarquettePark]

Citgo, is owned by Hugo Chavez, a scumbag and most Americans boycott that company.

Nothing positive about a gas station..............

Those new homes are built and sold by sub prime scam artist's, the residents who buy them are lured in with no money down, four hundred a month, and foreclose within two years.

Former residents famous or not, dont attract industry or respectable businesses.

Only hope for that town is annexation to Crestwood or Blue Island,

[bolden]

MarquettePark,

My point is that we should be factual when providing information about a certain area. I live in a community where I could not visit in the 1970's. Now it is one of those so called "gang ridden" communities. Some of these villages have been unfairly "Clocked" (See "Clockers" Heart Strings (1920) ) since much of the gang warefare is due to the black market economy supported/perpetuated by other "quiet" communities.

Since your handle is Marquette Park, I'm sure you are aware of it's history. I remember the Marquette Park "cleansings" in the 1960's. As a young child, I thought I was looking at a movie instead of the news. I couldn't believe hoses were turned on to people. While I was in high school (in the early '70's), we were told not to "walk" or "hang out" in Marquette Park. Now the area is somewhat integrated. Strangely, I didn't see Marquette Park on your recommended list.

Now, communities in Chicago, such as Cabrini Green, River West, the South Loop, West Loop "Skid Row" and Bronzeville are considered attractive places to live, now that the projects are torn down on State Street, Division, near United Center and South Cottage Grove to make way for +$200k condos and townhomes.

Somehow the community where I now own is getting a bad rap. It has its problems, and no, I would not recommend it or Robbins to an out-of-towner who has their options and Internet technology at their disposal. As a computer consultant, I decided to purchase in the southern suburbs after living in downtown Ft Wayne, IN in the late '80's At that time my community had clean streets, great services, and stable neighbors. Almost 20 years later, property taxes have increased, companies have moved on, many homes are up for foreclosure. Policemen, firemen, and teachers do not have to live in the village - most live in NW Indiana, Orland/Tinley, and Chicago. Some even live in Downers Grove, Crystal Lake, and Naperville. And why not - some are making +$80k avg as teachers.

And the next time you critique a community hard on its luck, visit it during the day and check the parking lot of the schools, police, and fire stations. I found that many of these civil servants live in the "recommended" communities.

They might have left the community, but they were able to take the jobs with them.

Originally Posted by MarquettePark

Former residents famous or not, dont attract industry or respectable businesses.

Only hope for that town is annexation to Crestwood or Blue Island,

[swanson2]

"And construction is being completed at the Citgo gas station on 135th and Kedzie. There is ongoing construction of homes along 135th street near the Crestwood boundary."

You forgot to mention that those area's are about as bad as anywhere in the country. If you're white and want to walk down 135th st or over by the Citgo gas station you might as well take a stroll through Cabrini Green or or the former Robert Taylor homes. This are isn't much better. New gas station or not, that's still a (bad) area, and I am very familiar with the area, I've lived there for 30 years.

[bolden]

Robbins is not 100% Black

Races in Robbins:

• Black (95.3%)
• White Non-Hispanic (2.4%)
• Hispanic (1.9%)
• Other race (0.9%)
• Two or more races (0.8%)

Source: http://www.city-data.com/city/Robbins-Illinois.html

Robbins is not 100% poor or the second poorest city

According to the US Census, 30.2% of families and 35.5% individuals in Robbins, IL are living below the poverty level.


Source: American FactFinder

According to the US Census, Naperville IL has the lowest poverty rate (2.2%) for all US cities over 100k in population. Brownsville city TX has the highest poverty rate (36%) See pp 7, table 4 of Census 2000 Brief

http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-19.pdf

Interesting demographics on Brownsville TX population (171,528)
White 80.9%, Black 0.2%, Amer Ind 0.4%, Asian 0.3%, Other 17.3%

Source: American FactFinder

City-data has different demographics using same 2000 US Census Data. What gives?

Source: http://www.city-data.com/city/Brownsville-Texas.html

Races in Brownsville:

• Hispanic (91.3%)
• Other race (14.7%)
• White Non-Hispanic (7.7%)
• Two or more races (2.3%)
• American Indian (0.6%)

You know, I don't hear many bad things about Brownsville, TX. Larger than Robbins, per capita income and poverty rate similar . . .

http://www.city-data.com/forum/searc...archid=1755614

I think we should all move to Naperville, IL to avoid poverty . . .

Uh oh - some of us would actually increase the poverty rate in Naperville, IL if we moved there wouldn't we. Bad idea.

Question to ponder: Is it better to live in poverty in Naperville, IL or live in abundance in Brownsville, TX?

I also found out that Connecticut is the state with the highest per capita income and tied with Minnesota with the 2nd lowest poverty rate (7.9%) (NH #1 at 6.5%). CT also contains Hartford CT, the city with the 2nd highest poverty rate (30.6%) of US cities over 100k http://www.city-data.com/city/Hartford-Connecticut.html. Interesting.

Be factual, not emotional.

Originally Posted by MarquettePark

Robbins is the second poorest village and or city, in North America.

100% black, 100% poor, 55% Public Housing, No jobs, No Hope,

[MarquettePark]

I dont have to visit, I live in the burb adjacent to it, I also work in Robbins, and unlike you 100% of my business, is in a customers living room, bedroom, and basement.


For the record I would rather have cancer, and be poor and live in Robbins, then be healthy and rich residing in Marquette Park, as far as Naperville I would rather be dead.........then live there

[tubia]

There is no propoganda bolden, its the truth. Robbins is as bad as everyone says and its getting worse as all the older people who knew what a sense of community was about are going or gone. Its heartbreaking to see whats happening there, but the *residents* need to be the ones to make a change. No one is going to do that for them, and that includes the sorry excuse for local government. Until then, I would not wish my worst enemy (not that I have enemies) to live there.

Oh, and you forgot to mention that Lt. Uhura hails from Robbins too.

[sonicreducer]

Originally Posted by bolden

Interesting demographics on Brownsville TX population (171,528)
White 80.9%, Black 0.2%, Amer Ind 0.4%, Asian 0.3%, Other 17.3%

City-data has different demographics using same 2000 US Census Data. What gives?

Races in Brownsville:

• Hispanic (91.3%)
• Other race (14.7%)
• White Non-Hispanic (7.7%)
• Two or more races (2.3%)
• American Indian (0.6%)

This discrepancy in the figures is due to a couple of things. Firstly, the Hispanic category on the census is a little different, in that it is based on language, culture and national origin--not on race. Hispanic simply refers to having ancestry in Spain or in Spanish-speaking countries. Hispanic people are sometimes counted as white in demographic surveys, sometimes as "two or more races", sometimes "other race". City data makes the distinction "White Non-Hispanic", whereas the census data you quote combines White Non-Hispanic with White - of Hispanic descent. That's why the numbers for City Data do not add up to 100% (you can be both Hispanic and black, Mestizo, Mulatto, etc.). There have been arguments that people responding to census forms often don't make this distinction or understand it well, and I can see why--it can be confusing.

[muddville]

Well i still live their i seen it ups and downs but i`m see a change slowly getting better.their tearing down eyesore and rebuilding other and soon closeing down both pubic housing area and some of you would see this if you weren`t fly though here doing 75 mph