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Unread 09-24-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Cedar Park, TX
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In all honesty, I think these maps are kinda interesting. I've always been interested in demographics and city layouts--not to prove any specific point or anything, but just because. I find it notable how certain cities have very clearly defined "racial" boundaries, while other cities are much more integrated.

Although updated 2010 maps would be much better, especially to see if any changes have taken place. And the ability to zoom in on certain areas, or even have landmarks and major highways highlighted would also be nice.
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Unread 09-24-2010, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Bristol, WI
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I think it's fascinating. If you follow the link there are over a hundred cities have been mapped this way. If you are into geography, it is pretty cool. If maps bore you, well ....
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Unread 09-24-2010, 09:58 PM
 
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Well, here's a forerunner that I did back in 2003, with more geographic context.
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Unread 09-26-2010, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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This one outlines the neighborhoods and is easier to read. What stands out to me is historic Pullman. I knew what a racial island it was, but this depiction really brings it home.
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Unread 09-26-2010, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago / Houston
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I think these maps are pretty interesting, even if they are based on 10 year old data.

One of the most astonishing things this map shows is how much of a racial divide Austin Blvd is between Chicago and Oak Park. While the areas dominated by different ethnic groups are usually divided by some industrial areas, rivers, or expressways, in this case it is just a street and the map suddenly goes from heavy blue to heavy red.

It will be interesting to see a similar map based on the latest census data, but do you really think it will change that much? I imagine the blue dots around Cabrini Green will be mostly gone. The West and South Loop will look quite a bit different and probably there will be a lot more red in the Wicker Park / Bucktown areas as well, but I'm not sure if areas farther from the Loop will have changed all that much.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: River North, Chicago, Illinois
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It might be a little cool if it had actual current data,boundaries,and a few major streets highlighted.

The city has changed a lot in the last ten years.
If you can't look at that may and tell where the major arterial streets are, you probably don't know Chicagoland well enough to care about this map anyway. It's pretty obvious where the major streets are, and once you know that you can determine the boundaries.

And while Chicago will have changed since 2000, I would guess than an updated map wouldn't differ enormously. And having this as a baseline only makes a 2010 version all the more interesting, since then you can actually see the changes - without this map, a 2010 one is just static and much less interesting.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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I think these maps are pretty interesting, even if they are based on 10 year old data.

One of the most astonishing things this map shows is how much of a racial divide Austin Blvd is between Chicago and Oak Park. While the areas dominated by different ethnic groups are usually divided by some industrial areas, rivers, or expressways, in this case it is just a street and the map suddenly goes from heavy blue to heavy red.

It will be interesting to see a similar map based on the latest census data, but do you really think it will change that much? I imagine the blue dots around Cabrini Green will be mostly gone. The West and South Loop will look quite a bit different and probably there will be a lot more red in the Wicker Park / Bucktown areas as well, but I'm not sure if areas farther from the Loop will have changed all that much.
I think the racial boundaries on the southwest and northwest sides (and the peripheral neighborhoods in general) will have changed quite a bit.

Regarding Oak Park, the powers that be make efforts to encourage whites to live on the east end of town, and likewise encourage blacks to not live right at Austin Blvd, in an attempt to prevent segregated housing patterns. It's not 100% effective.

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Unread 09-27-2010, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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If you can't look at that may and tell where the major arterial streets are, you probably don't know Chicagoland well enough to care about this map anyway. It's pretty obvious where the major streets are, and once you know that you can determine the boundaries...
I am sure there are many newcomers that it would help.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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...Regarding Oak Park, the powers that be make efforts to encourage whites to live on the east end of town, and likewise encourage blacks to not live right at Austin Blvd, in an attempt to prevent segregated housing patterns. It's not 100% effective.
It is amazing-one can tell right away where Austin Ave is on the west side and the town of Oak Park is when looking at the map.
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Unread 09-27-2010, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Oak Park Dude,

Oak Park has been very effective in preventing blocks from "turning" as was the case only a few blocks to the east in the 50s and 60s.

The first few blocks west of Austin are almost all black. Many of the white residents are duped by Oak Park Housing Authority into populating some of the apartments near Austin but many move to greener pastures once they figure out that they can rent in much safer parts of Oak Park for only slightly more money.

Oak Park is just weird. The racial lines are not just at Austin. There appears to be larger less affluent population near major thoroughfaires such as Austin, Madison and Roosevelt (not so much at division and chicago until you get further east and more apartments, less single family).

I met with the Oak Park Housing Authority and they only showed me stuff east of ridgeland (even though my girlfriend looks like straight up mayan mexican). I ended up going on craigs list to find a place and ended up being cherry picked by the buildings property manager to live in the building the owner lives in. I love the area and having the library a block away is great.
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