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Old 12-11-2007, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I live in Bucktown, and the previous posters are right, there is really not a huge difference, UNLESS you live closer to North Ave and California, then that part of Bucktown is a little different but still pretty safe. Other than that, when I walk my dog, for about a mile, then I'm into Wicker Park already. I also think that Bucktown housing might be just a little cheaper, not by much though
Funny, I always thought California and North was Humboldt Park. Once you go west of Western it is Humboldt Park.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Well part of the disagreement I guess is that Bucktown and Wicker Park are not official neighborhoods, so there is no official boundary. That said, myself and every other Chicagoan I know have always thought of North Avenue as the boundary between the two; and I don't know that it makes much difference to move the boundary north by two blocks. I see the eclectic mix in both of them; the stately old mansions in Wicker Park correspond to the newer, expensive single-families in Bucktown; for all the "refinement" along the Damen strip in Bucktown, there is an awful lot of not-so-refinement along the Milwaukee corridor; I see the same eclectic crowd in The Empty Bottle in Wicker as I do at Quenchers or The Map Room in Bucktown. There may be minor cosmetic differences here and there, but compared to other neighborhoods in the city, they're practically identical to me.
I always thought The Empty Bottle is in Ukrainian Village?
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I live on the north side of North, in the "disputed territory" between North and Bloomingdale -- whatever. There isn't much of a difference anymore, but Bucktown is indeed more prosperous.

From an architectural perspective, Wicker Park has distinctive blocks (particularly the Wicker Park Landmark District, mostly along Hoyne and Pierce, and the new Milwaukee Avenue landmark district), whereas Bucktown has some old workers' cottages but far fewer buildings of landmark quality. That's because the neighborhoods were once swapped socioeconomically, with Bucktown and eastern Wicker Park being working-class and Wicker Park being "the ethnic Gold Coast."

Of course, I've met old ladies who insist that anyone who doesn't wake up to the bells of St. Hedwig's doesn't live in Bucktown. C'est la vie.

I would agree the architectural angle is perhaps the best way to tell the differance in the two areas.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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When I used to live in Wicker Park, I was always curious about the divide between the 2 neighborhoods - particularly the affluence (largely based on rents) of one versus the other. It struck me odd that people felt that Bucktown was more elite and desirable yet Wicker Park certainly had the most attractive buildings. I used to pay $675 for a 2 BR on Bosworth near Blackhawk - and that was only 2 years ago! I wonder if you can even touch that price now. I think the most beautiful parts of that area are just past Damen, south of Division in the Ukrainian Village area.
You lived in West Town at that address. It can be called Noble Square or Eckhart Park, but certainly not Wicker Park.
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:55 PM
 
Location: LP-CHI-IL
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I always thought The Empty Bottle is in Ukrainian Village?
It is indeed Ukrainian Village, being south of Division on Western
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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It is indeed Ukrainian Village, being south of Division on Western
Thanks for backing me up. I was kind of trying to point out Drover's mistake jokingly.
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago - Logan Square
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I always thought The Empty Bottle is in Ukrainian Village?
Just another back up. Wicker Park's boundaries are a little more open to interpretation than defined community areas, but Western Ave. is waaaaayyyy too far West to be considered Wicker Park.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:12 AM
 
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Just another back up. Wicker Park's boundaries are a little more open to interpretation than defined community areas, but Western Ave. is waaaaayyyy too far West to be considered Wicker Park.
Wicker Park does have very definite borders. Western is the, uh, western border. The southern border is Division. The eastern border is the Chicago River, and the northern border is either North Avenue or Bloomingdale. Bloomingdale was the historic border between Wicker Park and Bucktown, but I can see how North Avenue might function better as a border.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Wicker Park does have very definite borders. Western is the, uh, western border. The southern border is Division. The eastern border is the Chicago River...

No. The eastern border of Wicker Park is Ashland. Noble Square is east of Wicker Park.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago - Bucktown
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The border has changed a few times. Before the area east of Ashland got siphoned off for "Noble Square" it was part of Wicker Park. Also, like Lookout Kid said the border between the two was Bloomingdale, but now seems to be North Ave. Bloomingdale is the border between the Logan Square & West Town community areas, though. I still consider south of Bloomingdale, Wicker Park.
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