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Old 01-02-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago - Ukrainian Village
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At the risk of diverting this thread, does pee kill grass or something? Just curious.

One of the many reasons I live in the city is that I hate lawn work.
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo View Post
What kind of an idiot punches some one with a gun after they have brandished it and put it back in their pants?

I was trained that if in a situation where we did not have our guns and were held hostage, that you do 3 things: Comply, distract (talk down), find an exit. That's all this kid had to do. He could have said "I'm sorry, you are right", walked home, called 9-11, and the marine would have been arrested for brandishing a fire arm.

But no, he had to be a tough guy. Let me tell you something, when you try to fight a Marine with a gun, one of two things is going to happen, as this kid found out. The marine has been put through hell and it is a good thing that this judge excercised good judgement. The system still works sometimes.
Totally agree. This kid plain and simple didnt have any iota of common sense. His instincts were all wrong. This is like the set up for a movie,
kid wont back down after his dog pisses on an exmarines's lawn.
Wow, talk about lack of self preservation at all.

We can all sit here and talk about how the exmarine is wrong about waving around his gun and threatening the kid who was 24 by the way.
Okay everyone here raise your hands, how many of you guys would have punched the exmarine in this situation?

Remember Choose Your Own Adventure Books?
This one wouldve been called Walking down the Street in the Burbs.

You walk down the street with your pooch and the damn pooch decides to
**** right on the best lawn on the whole block with the American Flag flying high.
An enraged exserviceman emerges from his abode brandishing a pistol
telling you how angry this action has made him.

You decide to try to punch out the exmarine who has just
threatened you with a gun please turn to page 52.

You decide that discrection is the better part of valor and you simper
off and profusely apologize please turn to page 32.

Which decision ends the story right then and there?

Which page did you guys pick?
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Is any lawn worth a human life?
Really?
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:05 PM
 
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Is any lawn worth a human life?
Really?

Using Really like that is getting really old.
I know its contemporary usage and syntax
but geez Im sick of that.

No one will argue that someones lawn
is worth a human life. We are debating
what is an appropriate response
to someone who is off kilter and has
a loaded gun who is pissed off about his
pissed on lawn.
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Not all ex-military are "good" people that need to be respected or trusted. For all we know, this guy is a total crazy jerk. Judging by what he did to the guy with the dog, chances that he is a crazy jerk are high. He belongs in a military mental hospital at best.
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by xavier xerxes View Post
No one will argue that someones lawn
is worth a human life.
We are debating
what is an appropriate response
to someone who is off kilter and has
a loaded gun who is pissed off about his
pissed on lawn.
But in fact someone is arguing that very point:


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Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo View Post
If you deface the private property of some one who had the balls to serve this country, you deserve every bullet you get, imo. Some punk kid got a good dose of street justice. That's all I see out of this.
And for the love of God, fix that overactive "enter" key on your keyboard or something.
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Old 01-03-2011, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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My father always preached, "Don't pick up a gun if you do not intend to use it." The flip side to this incident is the ex-Marine has to live the rest of his life with the knowledge he killed another human being over grass.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:26 AM
 
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And that a judge thought it only warranted probation. Not a good precedent to set.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Cardboard box
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My father always preached, "Don't pick up a gun if you do not intend to use it." The flip side to this incident is the ex-Marine has to live the rest of his life with the knowledge he killed another human being over grass.
I've seen Marines kill over much, much, less.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Cardboard box
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Guess the dog should have gotten shot.
Probably. He would have likely just recieved a fine but still would have made his point.
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