Chicago shrinks by over 200,000 in the 2000's Part 1 (Henry, Atlanta: place to live, cost of)

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by Tex?Il?

In fact, Drover, I do recall a post of yours long ago where you said that "Chicago has 2/3 to 3/4 of what New York has for 1/2 the price. Well, if thats true than St. Louis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, and yes even, the most misunderstood urban area in this country . . Detroit can easily say the same thing (especially since it is becoming a spot for filming).

Erm no.

[tonythetuna]

I thought this thread is about Chicago's population. The last 5 pages are mostly talking all about other cities and various things about them. If you guys want to talk about other cities so much, why don't you post in those city's forums?

The last 10 minutes paging through this garbage is time I will never get back.

[cubssoxfan]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

I thought this thread is about Chicago's population. The last 5 pages are mostly talking all about other cities and various things about them. If you guys want to talk about other cities so much, why don't you post in those city's forums?

The last 10 minutes paging through this garbage is time I will never get back.

Oh, the humanity! We wasted tuna's time

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by cubssoxfan

Oh, the humanity! We wasted tuna's time

Just about anyone who reads the last several pages time will be wasted.

[MannheimMadman]

I wonder when all the good stuff will be disseminated to Wikipedia. Right now, they're still using year 2000 numbers.

[Tex?Il?]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

Erm no.

Read Andrews post. If you are looking for a city that "wows" you then no. However, if you are willing to do a little research on where things are and don't mind driving. Chicago is a city that wows people. Other places, are amazing on a metropolitan scale, and you have to explore.

For example:
If you add up downtown Detroit where the casinos, theaters, stadiums, and 3rd greatest concentration of pre-war skyscrapers are, with Midtown Detroit with a world class art museum, and several other smaller museums are mixed in with two colleges, with Windsor, ON across the river with bars and clubs, with the world class Henry Ford and Greenfield Village and the countrest largest Arab/middle eastern population, with the lively, vibrant suburban downtowns of Ferndale, Royal Oak, and Birmingham, and to top it off, with Ann Arbor 40 miles, with one of the greatest public universities (some of the sharpest minds) in the country, with a major Polish neighborhood of Hamtramck, a thriving Mexicantown, with Asian enclaves in the suburbs, etc. to me it all adds up to coming very close to what Chicago has to offer. Just in a spread out way. Others may not see it that way. Others feel if they can't take public transportation to it, it doesn't count.


To me all that adds up to something amazing. I don't care if I have to drive. It doesn't matter to me if the attraction, amenities are concentrated in a grand downtown area, or more spread, its all the same, and frankly more interested to me than if everything is "downtown" or in "the city".

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by MannheimMadman

I wonder when all the good stuff will be disseminated to Wikipedia. Right now, they're still using year 2000 numbers.

Got some time on your hands?

Go change it yourself.

[MannheimMadman]

Originally Posted by grapico

Maybe it has been mentioned but the 00-10 change is one of the available data on ArcGIS

Can you link to this? I've been trying to scout the ArcGIS forum without any luck.

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by Tex?Il?

If you add up downtown Detroit where the casinos, theaters, stadiums, and 3rd greatest concentration of pre-war skyscrapers are, with Midtown Detroit with a world class art museum, and several other smaller museums are mixed in with two colleges, with Windsor, ON across the river with bars and clubs, with the world class Henry Ford and Greenfield Village and the countrest largest Arab/middle eastern population, with the lively, vibrant suburban downtowns of Ferndale, Royal Oak, and Birmingham, and to top it off, with Ann Arbor 40 miles, with one of the greatest public universities (some of the sharpest minds) in the country, with a major Polish neighborhood of Hamtramck, a thriving Mexicantown, with Asian enclaves in the suburbs, etc. to me it all adds up to coming very close to what Chicago has to offer.

Erm no, you can combine Detroit, all of its suburbs, Ann Arbor and Windsor and you still come up short.

It is pretty sad when you have to combine so many suburbs and a few cities just to make an argument and compare them against one city standing alone.

[Tex?Il?]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

Erm no, you can combine Detroit, all of its suburbs, Ann Arbor and Windsor and you still come up short.

It is pretty sad when you have to combine so many suburbs and a few cities just to make an argument and compare them against one city standing alone.

Well I didn't list everything.

Anyways, I never said it had everything Chicago had anyways. I said that other midwest metro areas are a just slightly closer to what Chicagoland has than Chicagoland has compared to what the New York tri-state area has.

I simply care more about the combined/consolidated area has to offer, than what the city itself. To each his own. One person like everything accessible by public transportation, another feels, that a metro area has more to offer, if there are far flung attractions and amenities at the far corners of a metro area. As a geographer, personally that feels "bigger" to me, when there is a cool city at the far reaches of metro area, or across a bay or river. I feel more liberated and relaxed driving down the highway 30 miles away, than being on the El. Others feel differently.