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Old 04-08-2011, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I think every respondent on this thread would agree that most any spot in Oak Park is more desirable than Garfield Ridge.
Not me.
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yes, they are. But he's talking about getting out of the neighborhood when hipsters and all the young white dudes started to come en masse.

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Old 04-08-2011, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Andersonville, Chicago
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Well played, sir.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Well played, sir.
That was funny. Glad to see there is some humor on this forum.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Listen, everywhere you live in the city has a downside. For some it's living near blue collar people, others it's smug intelligentsia, for others hipsters, and yet for others minorities, and even yet others yuppies. So you pick your poison about what types of peoples you want to live near. The city neighborhoods tend to group certain types of peoples together in close proximity, and Chicago is a fairly segregated city, not just by color but by what "kind" of a person you are. I have lived all over the city of chicago and even in the suburbs, and it's different wherever you go.
The concern people here have been expressing about ClearRidge isn't about the kind of people who live there today -- that's a known quantity. The concern is the kind of people who will live there tomorrow -- that's not such a known quantity but we can get ideas based on what has happened to adjoining areas.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:51 PM
 
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Not me.

...what would make Garfield Ridge preferable to Oak Park?
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:56 PM
 
Location: St. Augustine
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...what would make Garfield Ridge preferable to Oak Park?

It's not full of insufferably smug, holier than thou Doopers.

Some things about Oak Park never change; it's always been an enclave of the self satisfied. Faced with the choice I'd much rather live with a bunch of Poles and Mexicans.
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Old 04-09-2011, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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...what would make Garfield Ridge preferable to Oak Park?
If I have a party, my guests can park on the street overnight. That is reason enough.
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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The concern people here have been expressing about ClearRidge isn't about the kind of people who live there today -- that's a known quantity. The concern is the kind of people who will live there tomorrow -- that's not such a known quantity but we can get ideas based on what has happened to adjoining areas.
85% of those that live here tomorrow will need to be able to afford their own home. There are not very many apartment buildings in this area as opposed to areas further east. How many low income residents can do that? I would say Clear-ridge will be stable in the long run. Especially the western areas toward Harlem. The hispanic population will increase, but it will eventually average out at about 50/50 throughout the entire community area.
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Old 04-09-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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... he says to someone who lives in Albany Park.

No translation is necessary. Crime has been up in ClearRidge and one can get a preview of what to expect there in the future from neighborhoods to the east and northeast that have already undergone the demographic shift that ClearRidge is now experiencing. If you like what's going on in Marquette Park or Brighton Park or Gage Park, well there's good news because ClearRidge looks to be headed in that direction. If you want to wave the "racism" flag, go ahead. But the truth is a stubborn thing that does not bend to accusations of racism.
All I did was repeat what he said, minus the sugar coating. Was it politically incorrect, perhaps, was it waving the "racism" flag, no.
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