Denial of Humboldt Park (Chicago: crime rate, neighborhoods, school)

[James_Carmona]

Humboldt Park Chicago neighborhood has been one of the worst neighborhoods in Chicago for the past 30 to 40 years.

But many never consider it to be a bad neighborhood, mainly because the interests of the city of Chicago and the Developers and Companys that see Humboldt Park as a Development and Project Gold mine. And yuppies and hipsters refuse to call it one, because the City and Developers support there move into the neighborhood because their target for their projects is aimed at bringing in yuppies and hipsters in. Yuppies and Hipsters have gentrified the outskirts of the neighborhood through over a decade of gentrification.

Even with all of that, Humboldt Park has lead Chicago in homicides for 30 some years.

And recently even with the minorities leaving Humboldt Park and the whites moving in, Humboldt Park has managed to still have some of Chicago highest homicides numbers of even in the past decade.



Englewood Chicago, said to be one of Americas worst neighborhoods of all time, and Chicago's number 1 bad neighborhood, has come short of Humboldt Parks homicide numbers numerous times in past 5 years. Humboldt Park had the highest homicide number of all its neighborhoods, last year.



There was 1 year that it got so bad in Humbold Park in mid to early 90s, were it had over 100 homicides in 1 year.



This is the Truth, I read alot of posts about Humboldt Park, because I'm from not Humboldt Park but the Austin area, and all the posts I read first of all is really misleading. Its always been misleading everysince gentrification started in Humboldt Park, people want to deny its problems so they can presuade new development and for people to move in.

[Chi-town Native]

I don't think you intended this, but you answered your own question regarding why the City wants to gentrify it. It isn't fair to generalize a 50,000-or-so person community by a crime rate driven by a small percentage of that, but in Chicago change either comes from within or it's eventually going to be imposed from the outside.

[James_Carmona]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

I don't think you intended this, but you answered your own question regarding why the City wants to gentrify it. It isn't fair to generalize a 50,000-or-so person community by a crime rate driven by a small percentage of that, but in Chicago change either comes from within or it's eventually going to be imposed from the outside.

No, I'm really glad that crime is down in Chicago. But I feel as though Chicago is kicking out my people instead of helping us improve our situation, they just want to get rid of us, and make us somebody elses problem.

[Vlajos]

I have to ask, what can Chicago do to improve you?

[MannheimMadman]

Originally Posted by James_Carmona

No, I'm really glad that crime is down in Chicago. But I feel as though Chicago is kicking out my people instead of helping us improve our situation, they just want to get rid of us, and make us somebody elses problem.

Who are 'your people', anyhow?

And I second Vlajos' question; what can Chicago do to improve you? How can that make any sense?

[linicx]

I've read the Chicago Forums posts ever since the day I joined. And I've kept alive color driven threads that were not racist because I think the black voice should be heard in this forum. And I've probably refereed every HP thread in the last couple of years. And I've been deep in the southside of Chicago is bad 'hoods to various family celebrations to which I was invited. And in the process I met some awefully nice, average, hard working, black families that welcomed this stranger.

Chicago has always been mobile..It was mobile before the Civil War. It is horrible expensive to move today so I think people move 1000 -2000 miles because they have a reason: new job, school, aging/dying parents who need help and a few who believe the grass is greener on the other side of the street. As as the other, geesh, I see people move into better neighborhoods all the time.

[RiverRise]

I'd assume the "people" the OP is referring to are Puerto Ricans--them being the dominant ethnic group in Humboldt Park.

[quigboto]

I moved to HP 7 years ago and until the "people" of Humboldt Park decide to pick up their trash (figuratively and literally) and also decide to stop enabling (actively or passively) the sh**ty gang culture, I don't care one little bit what they have to say about the state of affairs here.
You don't like the way things are changing for the better? Boo-hoo. I don't feel sorry for you. Also, when quoting statistics, learn the difference between Humboldt Park neighborhood (the one you're talking about) and the Humboldt Park community area (the one you're quoting statistics from)

[chitownperson]

Originally Posted by James_Carmona

No, I'm really glad that crime is down in Chicago. But I feel as though Chicago is kicking out my people instead of helping us improve our situation, they just want to get rid of us, and make us somebody elses problem.

Who ever is causing problems should be kicked out regardless of ethnicity, whether they're your people, my people or they're people... I don't care what color criminals are, or what language they speak, I just want them gone. If you're a positive contribution to society you are more than welcome to say.

[SoxCub Fan]

Originally Posted by linicx

I've read the Chicago Forums posts ever since the day I joined. And I've kept alive color driven threads that were not racist because I think the black voice should be heard in this forum. And I've probably refereed every HP thread in the last couple of years. And I've been deep in the southside of Chicago is bad 'hoods to various family celebrations to which I was invited. And in the process I met some awefully nice, average, hard working, black families that welcomed this stranger.

Chicago has always been mobile..It was mobile before the Civil War. It is horrible expensive to move today so I think people move 1000 -2000 miles because they have a reason: new job, school, aging/dying parents who need help and a few who believe the grass is greener on the other side of the street. As as the other, geesh, I see people move into better neighborhoods all the time.

You do realize Humbolt Park is a majority Puerto Rican neighborhood on the north side?