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Old 01-18-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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Hi all. Awhile back I posted about the city shutting down 1 or 2 city colleges.
Last weekend, I ran into the person that said that there was a plan in the works to do this, so I asked him about it. He seemed pretty adamant that this is what he had been told by someone with ties into the city workings. He made some good points about the costs to run the schools and the teachers salaries and future pensions. Costs that cannot justified now. Couple that with abysmal graduation rates and what he said of the kids, "learnin' things that don't apply to getting jobs", (he talks a little like a previous mayor - desse, dems and dose) he just might be right. And I know that the city has been losing people for the last 10 or 15 years. So its a dying city in a population way. But he said nothing would be done til 2013. I guess he could be right there too. Mr. Emanuel will be busy with the Occupy people and then the G8 protests. That could get real ugly. Will probably remind many of 1968 Democratic convention.
Its too bad though. I went to a city college for a couple of semesters and transferred credits to a different school to finish up. So it was good for me then. But things change. Heck, I am writing this now because I'm off work today - because there really is no work right now. Well there's plenty time to see what might happen. That's one thing about the future, its always being rewritten.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:09 PM
 
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It would be very sad to see any of these colleges close. They provide not only hope of a better future, but result in a better future for so many people looking for a good education that's also inexpensive compared to other, unaffordable schools.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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It would be very sad to see any of these colleges close. They provide not only hope of a better future, but result in a better future for so many people looking for a good education that's also inexpensive compared to other, unaffordable schools.
But do they really? There's an article today pretty much saying they suck.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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@Vlajos...I would say so. I got my Associate's at a City College. It was very convenient and affordable...especially compared to the other reputable Universities in the area. I am now at Roosevelt for my Bachelor's, which is almost $700 per credit hour and $12,000 per semester full time.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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@Vlajos...I would say so. I got my Associate's at a City College. It was very convenient and affordable...especially compared to the other reputable Universities in the area. I am now at Roosevelt for my Bachelor's, which is almost $700 per credit hour and $12,000 per semester full time.
Good to hear a City College was helpful!
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Old 01-19-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:33 PM
 
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:00 PM
 
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I was in CCC for two semesters and transferred to a 4-year, where I am now a few months away from a BS in Chemical Engineering.

I do agree that the CCC system needs repair. It should definitely cater to those seeking a traditional community college ( 2 years or less and then transfer somewhere else), but a student going into a CCC without a direction has a low chance of emerging with one. For that, I think focused career training is a great idea.
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:44 AM
 
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@Vlajos...I would say so. I got my Associate's at a City College. It was very convenient and affordable...especially compared to the other reputable Universities in the area.
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I was in CCC for two semesters and transferred to a 4-year, where I am now a few months away from a BS in Chemical Engineering.
Both those stories seem really typical to me.

I was surprised when I heard the report about low graduation rates at CCC this morning - I was surprised they have any concern about graduation rates, and didn't think that many people went to a CCC to graduate. At a few jobs I've had we've paid for CCC classes for good employees with no college experience. Basically classes to improve their writing, math, or basic computer skills so we could promote them out of a really mindless entry level job.

I definitely agree with It'sAutomatic's point about placing more focus on training. They serve that purpose up to a point, but could do a much better job of it. A student going into a CCC (or any college for that matter) without any direction has a low chance of emerging with anything useful. CCC is a very important resource for the city, since outside of working a register there really aren't all that many unskilled jobs anymore. Plus, there are so many dishonest for profit colleges offering bogus training and degrees there is a real need for an affordable alternative.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Lake View Chicago
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I just started going to Harold Washington, and the majority of students I've met say that they're only there to get some credits and then transfer to a four year school without getting their associate's degree. I think this is a common use of community colleges, and at least partly explains the low graduation rates.

As far as quality education goes, it's really too soon to tell for sure, but all of my teachers seem wonderful after the first week. They all seem bright and enthusiastic and I'm excited to keep going back to their classes to learn.
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