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Old 05-08-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Is there tax money being spent on this project?
I'm assuming it will involve some form of tax expenditure for developer, but there aren't any details in the piece.

If the city doesn't have to spend/sacrifice tax money on this, then I could care less. Congrats to whoever gets to live there.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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I'm assuming it will involve some form of tax expenditure for developer, but there aren't any details in the piece.

If the city doesn't have to spend/sacrifice tax money on this, then I could care less. Congrats to whoever gets to live there.
I agree
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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It is the ''Chicago way''; however, the "Chicago way" is way out of date in the 21st Century as the city and state both find huge amounts of debt that will increase taxes and drive business away.

I didn't say the "Chicago way" is right or that I agree with it, but when the idiotic voters keep voting the same people into office that continually screw the tax payer to their own benefit, then you're going to get the same result over and over, as we've seen.

Take former Mayor Daley's sweet pension deal......Now there's a great example of the "Chicago Way" at it's finest.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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NOBODY deserves to be shipped to Indianapolis. Please don't start talking crazy here ok?

Unfortunately, the concept of "mixed income" will never translate into widespread practice absent some kind of Federal mandate by an administration that knows it's one-and-done and just wants to do good (I'm holding my breath over here FWIW). The main stumbling block is that many of those who preach the mixed income utopia don't want to live in a truly mixed income area. They think you should of course but they do not.

Think about the land bank program I cited above. That's about as dumb as they come. On the surface it seems evenhanded. Turn foreclosures into low income rentals, and every community has foreclosures right? Well...they do, but are foreclosures evenly distributed? No, of course not. You can go to Blockshopper.com and figure that out in about 10 seconds. A community like Cicero, for example, has more, a lot more, than Oak Park, and so on.

So, at the end of the day, those marginally incomed people who will be placed in foreclosed single family homes throughout Cook County will for the most part be in areas out of sight, out of mind to most of the middle and upper middle classes. And so the beat will go on.
Other than the liberal social do-gooders, there's nothing wrong with someone of a certain income level wanting to live in an area comprised mainly of others in that same economic demographic.
While some might argue that such a stance is close minded, it is what it is and everyone has that right.
Why do you think there are gated communities (comprised of all ethnicities, so don't try to turn this into a black vs white vs brown thing)
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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Affordable housing is wonderful for the family receiving it, and bad for the neighborhood that they abandon, bad for the neighborhood that they relocate to, and bad for the city. It's also a sick joke to claim to care about poor people in the city, and spend your time advocating for affordable housing that will help a whopping five families.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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I think the whole affordable housing thing is a joke.

If living in a neighborhood is supposed to be such a game-changer for people, yet you still send the kids to crappy, under performing CPS schools, aren't you really just putting a band-aid on a broken arm?
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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How is this good news?

It's inviting the ghetto and gangbangers to lincoln park. It will drive down the property value of people who live there, and it will be less safe for them too.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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Yes, 10 units of housing affordable to people who make 60% of area median income is going to destroy Lincoln Park. I truly mean destroy.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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Yes, 10 units of housing affordable to people who make 60% of area median income is going to destroy Lincoln Park. I truly mean destroy.
It opens the door for others programs. Was Cabrini Green built overnight?

Besides, it's the principle behind the program...
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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It opens the door for others programs. Was Cabrini Green built overnight?
Really? Ten units of housing affordable to someone making 60% of AMI is like Cabrini Green?

Please get a grip.
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