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Old 05-07-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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Affordable housing is a sham in itself. You build affordable units in Lincoln Park, you're pulling families out of low-income neighborhoods where there is already very cheap (i.e. market-rate affordable) housing, where the landlord will have a brutally hard time finding new renters, and more buildings will be demolished and more vacant lots will dot the streetscape.

There is a serious problem with the conditions of working-class areas in our city, and the cocurrent exodus from them. Building swank new places for the poor in hot neighborhoods will not solve anything.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Affordable housing is a sham in itself. You build affordable units in Lincoln Park, you're pulling families out of low-income neighborhoods where there is already very cheap (i.e. market-rate affordable) housing, where the landlord will have a brutally hard time finding new renters, and more buildings will be demolished and more vacant lots will dot the streetscape.

There is a serious problem with the conditions of working-class areas in our city, and the cocurrent exodus from them. Building swank new places for the poor in hot neighborhoods will not solve anything.
This is pure window dressing, nothing more than a diversion. A few affordable housing units in Lincoln Park means absolutely nothing in the big picture.

More disconcerting will be introducing large numbers of low income renters into homes that were formerly owner occupied in stable working class neighborhoods. That could create a lot of instability if not done intelligently, a word not traditionally associated with the County government, LOL!
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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Someone making 60% of AMI, may be simply a single mom who is a nurse.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Someone making 60% of AMI, may be simply a single mom who is a nurse.
Very true.

I think a relevant & valid question is where will the service sector employees in the these wealthy neighborhoods be coming from in order to work there?

Doesn't it make sense on some level (putting aside this specific proposal) to having a diverse range of people/income/skillset-wise living close to where they work?
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I dunno, the locals probably will try to shoot this down. I'm sure that they don't want any 'darkness' coming to the neighborhood.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Very true.

I think a relevant & valid question is where will the service sector employees in the these wealthy neighborhoods be coming from in order to work there?

Doesn't it make sense on some level (putting aside this specific proposal) to having a diverse range of people/income/skillset-wise living close to where they work?
They will probably use the CTA. If they really want to live in Lincoln Park, there are more affordable garden units, studios and 4+1's.
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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What is the proposal here? 100 apartments or so? We are talking about 10 units of affordable housing. Who cares?
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Johns Island
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I think a relevant & valid question is where will the service sector employees in the these wealthy neighborhoods be coming from in order to work there?
Don't worry yourself too much. If places like Beverly Hills can manage to find people close enough to do the grunt work, I'm sure Lincoln Park will somehow get by. Point me to any super-wealthy enclave, and I'll find you a ghetto/barrio/whatever within driving distance. They go hand-in-hand.

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Doesn't it make sense on some level (putting aside this specific proposal) to having a diverse range of people/income/skillset-wise living close to where they work?
I don't know, does it?

Just because the surgeons and chief residents can afford to live in Lincoln Park doesn't mean that the lab techs and registration clerks also "deserve" to live in Lincoln Park, let alone the janitors.

Affordable Housing proponents really need to understand that "this dog doesn't hunt" - the average Joe can't afford to live in Lincoln Park, so why should an arbitrary "low income" person be afforded that luxury?
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:48 PM
 
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Evidently it's the job of the taxpayers to subsidize wealthy banks, contractors and other corporations. It's easy to pick on the poor, they've so little power. Now to attack the wealthy and powerful, that would take a little moxie.
Could you be more specific about who these "taxpayers" are you speak of? Did you know that half of Americans don't pay any federal income taxes. This is the poorest 50% that doesn't pay. The richest 10% of Americans pay most of the federal taxes. Corporations pay more taxes than the poor are at least a net contributor for tax revenue and provide jobs. The wealthy and powerful are attacked and demonized relentlessly by protestors, liberals, and the medial. Its actually hard to pick on the poor because many are minorities and you are accused of being racist if you say anything negative. If you try to cut social programs you will have mass protests on public streets.
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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not a good idea thers affordable housing in uptown, rogers park,chinatown etc etc.
if you cant afford to live somewhere you dont need to we dont need more poor service workers in the city
im pretty sure alll those jobs are filled.
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