Chicago living?! (restaurants, department store, medical)
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Dear lord, if Evanston is ghetto, there are major problems.
Oh, I do, I am from the City of Detroit and I have seen some the same stuff that happens right in Detroit in Evanston.
People standing around looking up to no good. People smoking weed on porches, now obviously I know all of Evanston is not like this with Northwestern and there are two Whole Foods but Evanston had too many run down semi-seedy areas especially near Dodge Street for all the hype it gets.
I mean where intermixing and interacially dating is somewhat normal or be one the city new test markets for something environmentally friendly and health products.
Chicago is one of the most test-marketed cities in the U.S. If you're in the Loop during the day in the summer it's hard not to be handed free stuff to sample. Not all of it is for eco stuff, but there are eco things that get included in those marketing efforts. Chicago is a leader in things like green roofs and keeps expanding the number and type of bike lanes available, too. I will agree that Chicago isn't the *most* environmentally aware city, but does do more than many cities in that area.
I'm in a mixed-race relationship. I have never experienced any issue with that. I don't think progressiveness can be measured with any accuracy by mixed-race relationships, though.
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Originally Posted by stephei2000
For example a certain sunscreen I have to order online and I get right in the store in California or the electric car volt station and I did presentations for them for CES in Las Vegas. They were all over the place in the West coast
I just got back from a trip to San Francisco and I didn't see a single electric charging station and I was both in the City and in Silicon Valley (particularly Palo Alto and San Mateo). I know there are some somewhere in the Bay Area, but to say "they're all over the place in the West Coast" is such an exaggeration it borders on being an outright lie.
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Originally Posted by stephei2000
Or going out is not just sitting around at the bar drinking beers.
I actually like to go and mingle and dance, but does not happen here. I do not even go out much at night anymore because it the same.
If you don't want to sit around a bar drinking beers, then stop going to bars. If all your friends only ever want to go to bars, get new friends. It really is that simple. I go drink beers in a bar a few times a year. The rest of the times, I go do things. I'm not a big dancer, but there are plenty of non-bar-beer things to do in addition to dancing.
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Luckily I am more of day person and prefer daytime activites, but still it would be nice to go to real dancing places, laid back people and mingling.
These exist - I've been to places like this even though I don't dance. I'm not sure where you're going, but I find it really hard to believe that you've searched very hard.
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Originally Posted by stephei2000
Not that the people are super mean here, it is just everything is too uptight.
You know the first thing everyone ask me
What do you do?, and I just sigh, oh well, typical conformist thinking
Right, it's "conformist" to ask a traditional getting-to-know you question. How about, instead of thinking you're better than people just because they ask you a question that is perfectly normal in the local culture, you stop categorizing them as "conformist" and therefore beneath you as soon as they start talking to you, and you give them a chance to get past the surface pleasantries that are normal in any big city? You'll probably find that people are a lot more interesting if you don't just immediately tune them out based on some boilerplate question.
Location: Schaumburg, please don't hate me for it.
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I figure that the salaries make up for the higher COL? Everyone keeps telling me I'm wrong though. People also think Im crazy for liking winter but Chicago winters are gorgeous compared to ND!
You're not wrong at all. I'll take a high salary, high COL location over a lower salary, low COL location anytime. Most higher salary people are smart enough to know how to get the most out of their money. It doesn't take long to learn how and where to shop in Chicago. It does sometimes take more effort, because most of our discount, low price retailers and grocers are located a distance from the city center. Just get a zip car and fill it to the roof once a month. Or better yet make friends with someone who has a car.
Chicago is one of the most test-marketed cities in the U.S. If you're in the Loop during the day in the summer it's hard not to be handed free stuff to sample. Not all of it is for eco stuff, but there are eco things that get included in those marketing efforts. Chicago is a leader in things like green roofs and keeps expanding the number and type of bike lanes available, too. I will agree that Chicago isn't the *most* environmentally aware city, but does do more than many cities in that area.
I'm in a mixed-race relationship. I have never experienced any issue with that. I don't think progressiveness can be measured with any accuracy by mixed-race relationships, though.
I just got back from a trip to San Francisco and I didn't see a single electric charging station and I was both in the City and in Silicon Valley (particularly Palo Alto and San Mateo). I know there are some somewhere in the Bay Area, but to say "they're all over the place in the West Coast" is such an exaggeration it borders on being an outright lie.
If you don't want to sit around a bar drinking beers, then stop going to bars. If all your friends only ever want to go to bars, get new friends. It really is that simple. I go drink beers in a bar a few times a year. The rest of the times, I go do things. I'm not a big dancer, but there are plenty of non-bar-beer things to do in addition to dancing.
These exist - I've been to places like this even though I don't dance. I'm not sure where you're going, but I find it really hard to believe that you've searched very hard.
Right, it's "conformist" to ask a traditional getting-to-know you question. How about, instead of thinking you're better than people just because they ask you a question that is perfectly normal in the local culture, you stop categorizing them as "conformist" and therefore beneath you as soon as they start talking to you, and you give them a chance to get past the surface pleasantries that are normal in any big city? You'll probably find that people are a lot more interesting if you don't just immediately tune them out based on some boilerplate question.
Oh I know about the test market I use work in promotions and marketing passing these same items, but that is not what I was referring to.
Also, I have been in the Chicago area twice for almost years combine. I moved back to Michigan for minute. I only like to go dancing at night. I do not like theatre, arts, dining basically anything that requires non-movement.
However, I am too old for most quote clubs so that leave me kind of stuck at night.
Also, I the charging stations I meant were mentioned in L.A. I have never even been to San Francisco. It does not appeal to me. It seems like a pretty Chicago with hippies. I am more into the beach culture and laid back of L.A. I can go into a store in the nicest areas casual and not be judged.
If you go into trendy neighborhoods in Chicago get ready, if you are not dressed like Forever 21 and something trendy people assume that you are broke. I can not stand that here.
I just do not like culture that really all there is to it. You can be educated, attractive and active into outdoor stuff. But everyone wants to know what museums have been to or the latest restaurant. This stuff means nothing to me. I have live here for a while never been to a museum never will. The though puts me to sleep.
I understand why defensive most people who love the Chicago culture would never understand.
You're not wrong at all. I'll take a high salary, high COL location over a lower salary, low COL location anytime. Most higher salary people are smart enough to know how to get the most out of their money. It doesn't take long to learn how and where to shop in Chicago. It does sometimes take more effort, because most of our discount, low price retailers and grocers are located a distance from the city center. Just get a zip car and fill it to the roof once a month. Or better yet make friends with someone who has a car.
That's true and Chicago it really not that expensive if you plan it right.
Chicago is one of the most test-marketed cities in the U.S. If you're in the Loop during the day in the summer it's hard not to be handed free stuff to sample. Not all of it is for eco stuff, but there are eco things that get included in those marketing efforts. Chicago is a leader in things like green roofs and keeps expanding the number and type of bike lanes available, too. I will agree that Chicago isn't the *most* environmentally aware city, but does do more than many cities in that area.
I'm in a mixed-race relationship. I have never experienced any issue with that. I don't think progressiveness can be measured with any accuracy by mixed-race relationships, though.
I just got back from a trip to San Francisco and I didn't see a single electric charging station and I was both in the City and in Silicon Valley (particularly Palo Alto and San Mateo). I know there are some somewhere in the Bay Area, but to say "they're all over the place in the West Coast" is such an exaggeration it borders on being an outright lie.
If you don't want to sit around a bar drinking beers, then stop going to bars. If all your friends only ever want to go to bars, get new friends. It really is that simple. I go drink beers in a bar a few times a year. The rest of the times, I go do things. I'm not a big dancer, but there are plenty of non-bar-beer things to do in addition to dancing.
These exist - I've been to places like this even though I don't dance. I'm not sure where you're going, but I find it really hard to believe that you've searched very hard.
Right, it's "conformist" to ask a traditional getting-to-know you question. How about, instead of thinking you're better than people just because they ask you a question that is perfectly normal in the local culture, you stop categorizing them as "conformist" and therefore beneath you as soon as they start talking to you, and you give them a chance to get past the surface pleasantries that are normal in any big city? You'll probably find that people are a lot more interesting if you don't just immediately tune them out based on some boilerplate question.
You nailed it surface that what I can not stand. This just shows how judgement and surface people are and they do not even realize it.
Its VERY worth it. The culture and feel of the city is like no other. I think Chicago can appeal to any type of person. It has a contemporary, yet historical feel. We can be chill and laid back, but conservative and down to business. Everyone is very friendly for the most part, most people I have met are educated and make very good conversation. The environment is warm and welcoming and it is just a place like no other! But come out here and visit and experience it for yourself so you can make the right decision.
Oh, I do, I am from the City of Detroit and I have seen some the same stuff that happens right in Detroit in Evanston.
People standing around looking up to no good. People smoking weed on porches, now obviously I know all of Evanston is not like this with Northwestern and there are two Whole Foods but Evanston had too many run down semi-seedy areas especially near Dodge Street for all the hype it gets.
I expected a lot better.
Goodness. A few blocks away, there are $2 million houses. You won't find that in Detroit. Every city of any size has a few rundown areas.
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