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Old 03-20-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: River North, Chicago, Illinois
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While Rail does cost more upfront , overtime it costs less to run then bus service.....
I love rail, but this is only true at very high service volumes - volumes unlikely to be seen with the proposed Metra expansions. At lower-density and lower-ridership routes, bus almost always costs less than rail to operate, let alone build out infrastructure for.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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First they need to push the RTA out beyond the current 6 county limit. I think the first place they would expand if they got to go outside the 6 county area is DeKalb. Tracks are already there, and virtually everyone at that school is from the Chicago area and takes trips into the city for various things.
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Before they add stations, I'd like to see investment in making the current system faster and more reliable. Even trimming 10 minutes off of an hour commute would really help make it more of an option for people.
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Broadview, IL
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Before they add stations, I'd like to see investment in making the current system faster and more reliable. Even trimming 10 minutes off of an hour commute would really help make it more of an option for people.
Trimming 10 minutes off an hour commute would attract FRA involvement since the FRA (Federal Railroad Administration) coined the 79 mph maximum speed limit for all freight and passenger trains in America due to numerous derailments in the 50s, yet, they want to spend billions of money that we don't have to implement high speed rail using new tracks. That's bull! The solution is already there and that is to increase the maximum speed limit to a locomotive's actual maximum speed limit. Canada allows that with its VIA Rail and how many accidents do you hear about in Canada? They're not very common. Metra's F40PH locos have a maximum speed of around 110! Unless the idiots at the FRA wake up and increase a train's maximum allowed speed limit, you'll see commutes on Metra that are currently one hour long slashed to 50, or even possibly 40 minutes.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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It makes more sense for these extensions:
Milwaukee District North
Main Line

Union Station
Western Avenue
Healy
Grayland
Mayfair
Forest Glen
Edgebrook
Morton Grove
Golf
Glenview
North Glenview
Northbrook
Lake Cook Road
Deerfield
Lake Forest
Rondout+
Park City+
Gurnee+
Beach Park+
Wadsworth+
Russell+
Pleasant Prairie+
Kenosha Airport+
Parkside+
Somers+
Sturtevant+

Janesville branch

Libertyville
Prairie Crossing
Grayslake
Round Lake
Long Lake
Ingleside
Fox Lake
Spring Grove+
Solon Mills+
Zenda+
Walworth+
Bardwell+
Avalon+
Janesville+

Janesville is on the North Line, not the West Line.

Milwaukee District West

Union Station
Western Avenue
Grand/Cicero
Hanson Park
Galewood
Mars
Mont Clare
Elmwood Park
River Grove
Franklin Park
Mannheim
Bensenville
Wood Dale
Itasca
Medinah
Roselle
Schaumburg
Hanover Park
Bartlett
National Street
Elgin
Big Timber
Pingree Grove+
Hampshire+
Genoa+
Kingston+
Kirkland+
Monroe Center+
Davis Junction+
New Milford+
Rockford+

if you're extending the Milwaukee line through Belvidere you're going on the Union Pacific tracks.

Heritage Corridor

Union Station
Bridgeport+
Brighton Park+
Summit
Justice+
Willow Springs
Lemont
Romeoville+
Lockport
Joliet
Elwood+
Wilmington+
Braidwood+

You forgot to add infill stations on the HC.

Union Pacific West
Main Line

Ogilvie Transportation Center
Kedzie
Oak Park
River Forest
Maywood
Melrose Park
Bellwood
Berkeley
Elmhurst
Villa Park
Lombard
Glen Ellyn
College Avenue
Wheaton
Winfield
West Chicago
Geneva
LaFox
Elburn
Maple Park+
Cortland+
DeKalb+
Malta+
Creston+
Rochelle+

Freeport branch

Wayne+
South Elgin+
Elgin West Side
Gilberts+
Huntley+
Union+
Marengo+
Garden Prairie+
Belvidere+
Cherry Valley+
Rockford+
Winnebago+
Pecatonica+
Ridott+
Freeport+

Crystal Lake branch

Elgin East Side
Dundee+
Carpentersville+
Algonquin+
Crystal Lake

You forgot Malta and Creston.
It's Cherry Valley not Valley View.

Union Pacific North West
Main Line

Ogilvie Transportation Center
Clybourn
Irving Park
Jefferson Park
Gladstone Park
Norwood Park
Edison Park
Park Ridge
Dee Road
Des Plaines
Cumberland
Mount Prospect
Arlington Heights
Arlington Park
Palatine
Barrington
Fox River Grove
Cary
Pingree Road
Crystal Lake
Ridgefield+
Woodstock
Hartland+
Harvard
Sharon+
Clinton+
Janesville+

Williams Bay branch

Prairie Grove+
McHenry
Johnsburg+
Ringwood+
Richmond+
Genoa City+
Pell Lake+
Lake Geneva+
Williams Bay+

Rockford branch

Chemung+
Capron+
Poplar Grove+
Argyle+
Loves Park+
Rockford+

Elkhorn and Delavan are on the old Racine & Southwestern line.

SouthEast Service

LaSalle Street Station
Bronzeville
Gresham
Kensington
Dolton+
South Holland+
Thornton+
Glenwood+
Chicago Heights+
South Chicago Heights+
Steger+
Crete+
Balmoral Park+

Metra is planning this line. Remove the Metra Electric South Chicago branch.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:42 PM
 
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I think the key here is that connections to O'Hare Airport need to be emphasized moving forward. Any sort of Circle line or new express line out of downtown (Union Station, etc.) needs to have reliable, speedy connections to O'Hare Airport. This easily could easily attract tons of business travelers that prefer not to sit on the Kennedy Expressway forever even if it's in a cab.

Imagine an express line from O'Hare to downtown that makes the trip in 20 minutes. The distance is only 15.9 miles. Perfect for the business traveler that is traveling directly into downtown Chicago and not a surrounding Blue Line neighborhood like Bucktown, Wicker Park or Logan Square.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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I think the key here is that connections to O'Hare Airport need to be emphasized moving forward. Any sort of Circle line or new express line out of downtown (Union Station, etc.) needs to have reliable, speedy connections to O'Hare Airport. This easily could easily attract tons of business travelers that prefer not to sit on the Kennedy Expressway forever even if it's in a cab.

Imagine an express line from O'Hare to downtown that makes the trip in 20 minutes. The distance is only 15.9 miles. Perfect for the business traveler that is traveling directly into downtown Chicago and not a surrounding Blue Line neighborhood like Bucktown, Wicker Park or Logan Square.
By law, the charter under which RTA provides funding for both CTA & Metra requires that neither service directly compete with the other -- if Metra tried to "out do" CTA the results would harm the rest of the CTA system. The funds that CTA gets from rides to/from O'Hare help to keep its money losing routes operating.

I agree that some kind of "interconnection" between lines of the various Metra routes and the CTA should be the boards as "complimentary" service and such efforts would truly help to expand employment options for folks in parts of Chicago that currrently must travel to the Union Station or Olgilvey Center "hubs" before riding out along the "spokes" to suburban employment AND it could encourage re-investment in parts of Chicago that do have some CTA service but no way for folks living further away to get to work sites except by driving.

Those sorts of efforts would be cooperation and coordination and too many "urbanophiles" (some of whom are on CTA staff) just have no vision that includes traditional heavy rail of Metra, personal automobiles, and intra-regional CTA El service. Frankly they need to increase the value and awareness of routes like the Yellow & Purple lines that ought to be models of how CTA can be part of a more region-wide solution...
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Old 08-31-2014, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I think the extension of the MD-N to two branches one with stops near Abbott Park/Abvie's main campus and a stop in Gurnee which the tracks run right by downtown make huge sense. Currently the Amtrak to Milwaukee uses the tracks.
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Old 08-31-2014, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Also finishing the Yellow line extension to Old Orchard RD in between the Court House and Mall would be very sensible. Wasn't that the main reason that they got rid of the overhead wires and laid third rail. There is the old Skokie Valley Freight ROW available for the extension all they need to do is build station and lay tracks.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:11 PM
 
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Add to my corrections to your extensions.

Janesville branch of Milwaukee District North will be extended in stages:
First extension- Fox Lake to Walworth
Second extension- Walworth to Janesville


Williams Bay branch of Union Pacific North West will be extended in stages:
First extension- McHenry to Johnsburg
Second extension- Johnsburg to Richmond
Third extension- Richmond to Williams Bay


Milwaukee District West will be extended in stages:
First extension- Big Timber to Hampshire
Second Extension- Hampshire to Kirkland
Third extension- Kirkland to Rockford


Union Pacific West will be extended in stages:
First extension- Geneva to Elburn
Second extension- Elburn to DeKalb
Third extension- DeKalb to Rochelle
Freeport branch
First extension- West Chicago to Marengo
Second extension- Marengo to Rockford
Third extension- Rockford to Freeport

Burlington Northern SantaFe
Main Line

Union Station
Halsted Street
Western Avenue
Cicero
LaVergne
Berwyn
Riverside
Hollywood
Brookfield
Stone Avenue
LaGrange
Congress Park
Western Springs
Highlands
Hinsdale
West Hinsdale
Clarendon Hills
Westmont
Fairview Avenue
Downers Grove
Belmont
Lisle
Naperville
Route 59
Aurora
Montgomery
Bristol
Plano
Sandwich
Somonauk
Earlville
Leland
Mendota


Streator branch

Oswego
Yorkville
Millbrook
Millington
Sheridan
Ottawa
Streator


Rochelle branch

Sugar Grove
Big Rock
Hinckley
Waterman
Shabbona
Lee
Steward
Rochelle


Heritage Corridor
Union Station to Joliet see previous post
Elwood
Wilmington
Braidwood
Braceville
Gardner
Dwight
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