May be moving to Chicago....Bucktown vs Lakeview (Naperville, Oak Park: hardwood floors, affordable apartments)

[stephei2000]

Originally Posted by marothisu

I'd say Lincoln Park is more of a dbag center, but there certainly are areas of Lakeview like that for sure. There are areas of Lakeview that aren't though. No matter what though, I like Wicker Park, Bucktown, UK Village, and Logan Square more than Lakeview on average. More interesting on average IMO.

I agree with this Lincoln Park is much worse with this. The most douchy part of Lakeview is the Southport and Wrigelyville areas.
East Lakeview does not have the exact same vibe. I have been wanting to move there for years. It is the only neighborhood in the city I like.

But I will admit, I can be more traditional in certain way and like to be around similar people with similar attitudes.

However, overall I am suburban person. I have never dreamed of living in the "big city" as I am from Detroit the actual city not the suburbs, and I am not dying to live the city life that I guess these poor surburbanities missed out on. City life overall to me means attitudes and harsh people.

Lakeview and especially Lincoln Park is not really city living. It is trendy living. Especially around the North/Clybourn area in Lincoln Park. That is like Naperville condensed style. Imaging all of your favorite suburban stores clustered into one area with some international restaurants, independent restaurants and bars. That is pretty much LV/LP.

But actually that is what is appealing part to me. All my usual stores in close proximity, softer suburban attitudes, but a lot of young people. I am not one of those people who pretends I want a real city experience. It is not possible, especially when every surburban chain store is walking distance instead of driving.

To the OP if you want a edgy city experience with more diversity stick with Wicker Park/Bucktown.
But that area is little too diverse, artsy, smoking and seedy for me.
If most the people in Lakeview had more real cities experience, people of different attitudes, economic backgrounds, lots of rude foreigners, and just downright mean bitter people. Most would be running back to their suburban enclaves in five seconds.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by stephei2000

Lakeview and especially Lincoln Park is not really city living. It is trendy living. Especially around the North/Clybourn area in Lincoln Park. That is like Naperville condensed style. Imaging all of your favorite suburban stores clustered into one area with some international restaurants, independent restaurants and bars. That is pretty much LV/LP.

I agree with the North & Clybourn area, but I don't agree with many others. Most of Lincoln Park and Lakeview are absolutely nothing like the suburbs.

[jdiddy]

Originally Posted by stephei2000

Lakeview and especially Lincoln Park is not really city living. It is trendy living. Especially around the North/Clybourn area in Lincoln Park. That is like Naperville condensed style. Imaging all of your favorite suburban stores clustered into one area with some international restaurants, independent restaurants and bars. That is pretty much LV/LP.

No, that's still city living. Just not the kind you like.

[stephei2000]

Originally Posted by marothisu

I agree with the North & Clybourn area, but I don't agree with many others. Most of Lincoln Park and Lakeview are absolutely nothing like the suburbs.

They are not, but the attitude can be which is great to me.

I did not even notice North& Clybourn area, the feel of it until I hung around that area many times.

[stephei2000]

Originally Posted by jdiddy

No, that's still city living. Just not the kind you like.

No actually that would be great it Chicago added some modern apartments and tear down all the old ugly brownstones from 1920 or quote "vintage" apartments.

[tallahasseehero1]

Originally Posted by stephei2000

I agree with this Lincoln Park is much worse with this. The most douchy part of Lakeview is the Southport and Wrigelyville areas.
East Lakeview does not have the exact same vibe. I have been wanting to move there for years. It is the only neighborhood in the city I like.

But I will admit, I can be more traditional in certain way and like to be around similar people with similar attitudes.

However, overall I am suburban person. I have never dreamed of living in the "big city" as I am from Detroit the actual city not the suburbs, and I am not dying to live the city life that I guess these poor surburbanities missed out on. City life overall to me means attitudes and harsh people.

Lakeview and especially Lincoln Park is not really city living. It is trendy living. Especially around the North/Clybourn area in Lincoln Park. That is like Naperville condensed style. Imaging all of your favorite suburban stores clustered into one area with some international restaurants, independent restaurants and bars. That is pretty much LV/LP.

But actually that is what is appealing part to me. All my usual stores in close proximity, softer suburban attitudes, but a lot of young people. I am not one of those people who pretends I want a real city experience. It is not possible, especially when every surburban chain store is walking distance instead of driving.

To the OP if you want a edgy city experience with more diversity stick with Wicker Park/Bucktown.
But that area is little too diverse, artsy, smoking and seedy for me.
If most the people in Lakeview had more real cities experience, people of different attitudes, economic backgrounds, lots of rude foreigners, and just downright mean bitter people. Most would be running back to their suburban enclaves in five seconds.

Thanks. I have also been looking into wicker park and ukranian village

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by stephei2000

No actually that would be great it Chicago added some modern apartments and tear down all the old ugly brownstones from 1920 or quote "vintage" apartments.

There's almost no brownstones in Chicago. Maybe 20 total now, some of which are in Gold Coast. There are some very beautiful old houses too, especially in Lincoln Park.

If you want modern buildings, go downtown. There are also modern buildings in Lincoln Park anyway. Guess you haven't heard of 2550 Lincoln Park which was completed not too long ago? Have you done a lot actual exploring in those neighborhoods or...? There's a lot of extremely nice modern houses/duplexes/condos in both neighborhoods mixed in with the old.

The problem with building modern architecture too is that half of them tend to be boring and add nothing to the overall feel of the neighborhood. I'm sorry, but I'd rather have a neighborhood with old and new both mixed. Tearing down all the old buildings and building new ones is a complete cop out. Not to mention, there's a lot of houses that look old on the outside and are completely redone on the inside and very very nice. If you actually explored more, you'd see a lot of what I'm talking about. Go to Irving Park and Greenview, and go south on Greenview if you want a few examples.

[MannheimMadman]

Originally Posted by stephei2000

No actually that would be great it Chicago added some modern apartments and tear down all the old ugly brownstones from 1920 or quote "vintage" apartments.

Yeah, you really need to leave Chicago if that's what you think of our architecture. Part of the reason I'll never leave Chicago for the suburbs is my chance to feast my eyes on late nineteenth/early twentieth century architecture.

[stephei2000]

Originally Posted by marothisu

There's almost no brownstones in Chicago. Maybe 20 total now, some of which are in Gold Coast. There are some very beautiful old houses too, especially in Lincoln Park.

If you want modern buildings, go downtown. There are also modern buildings in Lincoln Park anyway. Guess you haven't heard of 2550 Lincoln Park which was completed not too long ago? Have you done a lot actual exploring in those neighborhoods or...? There's a lot of extremely nice modern houses/duplexes/condos in both neighborhoods mixed in with the old.

The problem with building modern architecture too is that half of them tend to be boring and add nothing to the overall feel of the neighborhood. I'm sorry, but I'd rather have a neighborhood with old and new both mixed. Tearing down all the old buildings and building new ones is a complete cop out. Not to mention, there's a lot of houses that look old on the outside and are completely redone on the inside and very very nice. If you actually explored more, you'd see a lot of what I'm talking about. Go to Irving Park and Greenview, and go south on Greenview if you want a few examples.

Sorry, I did not mean to say brownstones. I meant old Victorian buildings. Also, I have heard about 2550 Lincoln Park or other modern complexes. However, I am not willing to pay crazy amounts of money to live in one.

Here's a newsflash, I do not like Chicago. I am sure everyone has figured that out by now. I would never pay over 800 a month to live here. Even that is pushing it for me. Also I thought and this is my ignorance I thought, I would be able to find a nice modern apartment like when I used to visit my friends in Lansing, L.A or the Detroit suburbs.

I have live in this area for a total of almost 5 years with an 8 month stint back in the Detroit area.

I made the mistake of moving back here. I am just too practical with money as I did not want to move to California broke and without a job.

[Plzeň]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Most of Lincoln Park and Lakeview are absolutely nothing like the suburbs.

I wouldn't say that. They have the same types of establishments and demographics as upper-middle-class suburbs, I'd say. Obviously they're in the city, and have an urban density, but the comparison isn't completely unwarranted by any stretch.