Reflection of a Two Year Transplant (For Outsiders) (Chicago, Manhattan: moving, educational)

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by Drover

And yet I found that starting rent for a decent apartment in a decent neighborhood isn't that much lower than here. I realize it's a college town and all, but is there some kind of building restriction or other artificially-created housing shortage there or something?

I'll bet that rents in Syracuse are partially-propped up by wealthy SU students from the NYC area..

[reppin_the_847]

I know that this thread has gotten grossly off-topic but I can't resist adding to the new direction of the thread. When it comes to Upstate NY, I think that the culture gets distinctly more NYC-centric (but in a small-town way) once you get as far east as Albany and any points south of Albany towards NYC up & down the Hudson River. Some amazing scenery over there on the Hudson might I add. In some of those quiet, quaint towns along the Hudson it's hard to tell that you're not that far from the largest city in America and one of the great urban metropolises of the world. Chelsea Clinton got married in one of these picturesque areas (Rhinebeck I believe).

[Michael Scott]

This thread had so much potential and now its this...

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[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Heyooooo

You really think Buffalo and Trenton are significantly different to people from El Paso or Honolulu? Really?

Speaking as someone who is from the same large general region as El Paso, let me say:

YES. Really.

For the love of God, YES they are significantly different to us. Buffalo resembles other Great Lakes cities. Trenton resembles other East Coast suburbs. This is not hard to see, regardless of where you're from.

That's like asking if people from NYC or Philly can really tell the difference between Orlando and Boulder. Uh, yes, as a matter of fact, they can.

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Speaking as someone who is from the same large general region as El Paso, let me say:

YES. Really.

For the love of God, YES they are significantly different to us. Buffalo resembles other Great Lakes cities. Trenton resembles other East Coast suburbs. This is not hard to see, regardless of where you're from.

That's like asking if people from NYC or Philly can really tell the difference between Orlando and Boulder. Uh, yes, as a matter of fact, they can.

Trenton kind of resembles Philly and Baltimore, and it's not particularly nice...

Maybe the OP thinks of Chicago as a very large Buffalo..?

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by MassVt

Maybe the OP thinks of Chicago as a very large Buffalo..?

I'm sure there are many coastal folks who think this way. But they are utterly clueless.

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

I'm sure there are many coastal folks who think this way. But they are utterly clueless.

I agreee.

Some have made the statement that Chicago is full of Midwesterners, and only Midwesterners. Not true, but then again, who comprises most of the population in the large cities of the East Coast? It's no different there--it's not all ultra-cosmopolitan Manhattan...

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Heyooooo

Economy? Show me.

You'll be waiting a while. The economy is doing worse than most of the east coast in the area PA Born said is doing better than most of the east coast.

[reppin_the_847]

That is true. NYC still has a lot of Italian (and sometimes Irish) Joe The Plumber types. Just take a trip to Staten Island and it's quite apparent. A lot of them do commute to work in Manhattan.

Italian women tend to be hawt tho, but the young'uns can come off as pretty Jersey Shore-ish. These are the bridge & tunnel folk that Manhattanites constantly like to diss.

Originally Posted by MassVt

I agreee.

Some have made the statement that Chicago is full of Midwesterners, and only Midwesterners. Not true, but then again, who comprises most of the population in the large cities of the East Coast? It's no different there--it's not all ultra-cosmopolitan Manhattan...

[Tex?Il?]

Originally Posted by Heyooooo

The coasts are pretentious and overpriced.

Not sure how that changes the proximity factor though. Utica is closer to more interesting major cities.

Youre trying to make a point here, and youre really not actually.

The point is, is that you have a very strong opinion on everything, that proves you seem to think there's no reason to experience life outside Chicago, because like you said the coasts are overpriced and pretentious, and everything that lies between Chicago and New York is bleak and depressed. Which is actually what a lot of Chicago boosters think. Thats fine.