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Old 10-30-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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They come here poor and stay poor for many reasons. They have children who end up running with the gangs.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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They come here poor and stay poor for many reasons. They have children who end up running with the gangs.
They said the same thing about the Irish and Italians.

Legalize & tax the crap out of marijuana and watch the street gang violence plummet just like it did after Prohibition ended.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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They said the same thing about the Irish and Italians.

Legalize & tax the crap out of marijuana and watch the street gang violence plummet just like it did after Prohibition ended.
I agree on making weed legal.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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They said the same thing about the Irish and Italians.

Legalize & tax the crap out of marijuana and watch the street gang violence plummet just like it did after Prohibition ended.
That I agree with.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Cole neighborhood, Denver, CO
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I am not asserting anything. Historical evidence has shown this to be the case. I have done the research already, which is why I hold the position that I do. Anyone else who has chosen to not to do the research and wishes believe that racism is somehow natural and always existed prior to the racial (and therefore socio-economic) classifications created by Europeans, that's on them. You don't have to believe it but it's the truth.
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But racial classes being formed by Europeans is not disputed.
So, you're saying that Christopher Columbus traveled back in time and taught the Egyptians how to enslave the Jews?

That's a good one.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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So, you're saying that Christopher Columbus traveled back in time and taught the Egyptians how to enslave the Jews?

That's a good one.
Jews being enslaved in Egypt is a myth. It didn't happen.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Jews being enslaved in Egypt is a myth. It didn't happen.
What exactly would the motivation be for this alleged historical fraud? It isn't like they sued the Egyptian govt for damages... The absence of evidence that meets archaeological muster doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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What exactly would the motivation be for this alleged historical fraud? It isn't like they sued the Egyptian govt for damages... The absence of evidence that meets archaeological muster doesn't mean it didn't happen.
As I've already stated, no one knows who built them. Outside of what is written in the Bible, there's no other proof. Of course if that's what you believe then I respect that. However there's no other historical records or archaelogical evidence outside of the Bible that Jews were ever slaves in Egypt and the Egyptians kept some of the best historical records.

No one knows who built them or how. It remains a mystery.
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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As I've already stated, no one knows who built them. Outside of what is written in the Bible, there's no other proof. Of course if that's what you believe then I respect that. However there's no other historical records or archaelogical evidence outside of the Bible that Jews were ever slaves in Egypt and the Egyptians kept some of the best historical records.

No one knows who built them or how. It remains a mystery.
Whether Jews were enslaved is separate from whether they built the pyramids though. I would agree with you on the latter, but as for the former, I believe the parts of the Old Testament referring to general historical matters (eg, the movement and existence of peoples, not the creation myth) are considered to be accurate in a general sense. That said, I take your point the Bible doesn't rise to the level of DNA as far as being "proof" of anything.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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Whether Jews were enslaved is separate from whether they built the pyramids though. I would agree with you on the latter, but as for the former, I believe the parts of the Old Testament referring to general historical matters (eg, the movement and existence of peoples, not the creation myth) are considered to be accurate in a general sense. That said, I take your point the Bible doesn't rise to the level of DNA as far as being "proof" of anything.

It doesn't matter. There is no evidence that the Jews built the pyramids whether they were slaves or not. There's no proof of the their migration into or an exodus out of Egypt during the period they were built. Jews were never slaves in Egypt, nor did they build the pyramids. Again, it's a myth. The Bible doesn't even mention the pyramids.
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