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Old 07-18-2013, 08:01 AM
 
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I'm going to disagree--strongly--with this notion that hockey before HDTV was unwatchable. I grew up in Vermont, and only 90 miles from Montreal, and we received several Canadian stations, includng a couple which televised "Hockey Night in Canada" from either Montreal or Toronto, and the viewing picture was always perfectly fine. Hockey is not a difficult sport to follow "on TV", and never has been...
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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Maybe rural arwas had less multi path distortion / ghosts. In many parts of Chicago the reflected signal resulted in three / four copies of the "action" all sort of laid atop each other...
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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I'm going to disagree--strongly--with this notion that hockey before HDTV was unwatchable.
Absolutely. I grew up in Boston watching the Bruins on a small TV in the 70's and never felt that it was unwatchable. Based on the Bruin's fan base at the time plenty of people agreed with me. I remember when Fox started doing that stupid glowing puck thing and could never understand why they thought that was necessary.

That said, I certainly noticed the difference when we got our first HDTV. It was one of the things I liked most about the upgrade.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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I just read the NHL wikipedia page, and it confirms that this is a sport for cold places. All the major teams are centered around the great lakes.. So Chicago is best of these half-dozen cities, wowee, who cares?
Yep! Denver, Dallas, St. Louis, Los Angeles, NYC, Boston, Tampa, Raleigh, Philly, Phoenix, DC, etc. All well-known Great Lakes cities for sure.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:45 AM
 
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Absolutely. I grew up in Boston watching the Bruins on a small TV in the 70's and never felt that it was unwatchable. Based on the Bruin's fan base at the time plenty of people agreed with me. I remember when Fox started doing that stupid glowing puck thing and could never understand why they thought that was necessary.

That said, I certainly noticed the difference when we got our first HDTV. It was one of the things I liked most about the upgrade.
Hockey Night in Canada in the 60s and 70s was extremely watchable...

Remember "Peter Puck" from the Sunday afternoon games on NBC in the 70s?
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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I share season tickets. Sunday games were ones I took the kids to the Stadium.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:23 AM
 
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I wouldn't expect countries without beaches to be any good in beach volleyball. So I would not expect cities without ICE to be good at ICE hockey! What's so hard to understand? Chicago is the biggest city with ICE that plays this sport, so should be #1.
Okay, it's called a salary cap (no team can spend more than x amount on their roster each year, and teams also have to spend a x amount to reach the salary cap floor), drafting, and free agency, which are irrelevant to the size of your city--it's not like baseball where the big markets have financial advantages. Also, it's called modern engineering and technology-they can build these facilities called ice rinks within a building that has technology that can keep it cold, and people can magically stake on them.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Okay, it's called a salary cap (no team can spend more than x amount on their roster each year, and teams also have to spend a x amount to reach the salary cap floor), drafting, and free agency, which are irrelevant to the size of your city--it's not like baseball where the big markets have financial advantages.
So the average Joe who knows nothing about ice hockey is supposed to know all this So what you are saying is Canada and Chicago should dominate NHL, but because of "artificial" limits, they do not. So I am back to square one, where I still find the mania ridiculous.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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So the average Joe who knows nothing about ice hockey is supposed to know all this So what you are saying is Canada and Chicago should dominate NHL, but because of "artificial" limits, they do not. So I am back to square one, where I still find the mania ridiculous.
No, we're not saying this at all. And there's not really that much to know in the first place.

But it's clear that you don't understand any of this.

Give up this charade, while you're already behind.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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I wouldn't expect countries without beaches to be any good in beach volleyball. So I would not expect cities without ICE to be good at ICE hockey!
Do you think professional sports teams are made up of players from the city in which the team is located, the same way Olympic teams are made up of players from the countries they represent? (Hint: They're not. They're made up of the best players from around the world that the teams can afford.)

Personally, I don't "get" hockey, either. I don't find it interesting, I find it difficult to watch on TV (can anyone actually see the puck?), boringly low-scoring, and I find bandwagon fans to be obnoxious. It's clearly a highly competitive sport, though, and it's clearly a big deal for fans of a team when their team wins the national championship. Nothing you're saying in an attempt to contradict or minimize that is making any sense whatsoever.
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