Back of the Yards War Zone (Chicago: section 8, lawyers, unemployment)

[Alacran]

Originally Posted by treemoni

"Yuppie" is derogatory?

C-D just gets better and better.

Lol

[lenniel]

Originally Posted by Globe199

Oh yes, you can come up with anecdotes to disprove my point. But on the whole, I think the gap between rich and poor contributes to most of our society's problems. Unfortunately, that gap in this country is growing.

Just so I'm clear. What you're saying is that if you're poor, you turn to crime?

[lenniel]

Originally Posted by Globe199

How about free birth control and education provided for any woman who wants it?

Aren't there free clinics? Free public education?

The problem is the 'culture'. Until that changes, the door will keep revolving and things will continue to be bad in the bad areas.

[lenniel]

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

There are some dumb people in the world but the vast majority aren't that dumb. I doubt a single girl in the country over the age of 15 having sex is not unaware that it could potentially result in pregnancy.

The problem is their lives are so chaotic and their environment so degraded and they have so little parental help that they are making awful choices... the kind of choices kids with no parental guidance make.

Well said Jonny.
As I've said many, many times, Until the culture of these communities change, where's NOT OK to have multiple children from multiple men by the time you're 20. Where it's NOT OK to drop out of high school. Where it's NOT OK to live on welfare because you don't want to work....then you'll have kids doing exactly what they saw their parent doing growing up and the cycle will continue.

[EJ3791]

Originally Posted by treemoni

"Yuppie" is derogatory?

C-D just gets better and better.

It sure is. When it was popular, it referred to a young professional who was self absorbed, out of touch, status-driven, shallow, materialistic, conspicuously consumptive, etc. Perhaps it doesn't have as negative connotations for people who grew up after the '80s.

[jonnynonos]

They arrested two people. Gang related of course.

I guess there was also some discussion by politicians of actually sending in the National Guard.

[svillechris]

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

They arrested two people. Gang related of course.

I guess there was also some discussion by politicians of actually sending in the National Guard.

Of course it is gang related. Could have told you that the second the news broke. Sending in the National Guard or more state troopers or anything else won't stop the violence. You can have a cop on every street corner and it wouldn't stop gang activity. It may lead to few more arrests, but then the next in line in the gang will step up to perform that arrested-person's duties. Kind of like Al-Qaeda. You chop off one limb by killing one of the leaders, but the network is so broad, others will step in to fill that person's shoes. There are over 70,000 gang members in the city of Chicago. That's about 2.5% of all Chicago citizens that are in an organized gang.

Until the thug culture that doesn't value education, respect, authority, and human life still exists, the gang violence will persist. It all starts with parenting and the family structure. When the parents are gang-banging, drug dealing, or in prison themselves, the children don't feel the affection or family closeness at home, so they turn to gangs at the age of 12.. then it's too late to save them. Unfortunately in that culture, parenting is more of a burden than a privilege.

[NARFALICIOUS]

Originally Posted by svillechris

Of course it is gang related. Could have told you that the second the news broke. Sending in the National Guard or more state troopers or anything else won't stop the violence. You can have a cop on every street corner and it wouldn't stop gang activity. It may lead to few more arrests, but then the next in line in the gang will step up to perform that arrested-person's duties. Kind of like Al-Qaeda. You chop off one limb by killing one of the leaders, but the network is so broad, others will step in to fill that person's shoes. There are over 70,000 gang members in the city of Chicago. That's about 2.5% of all Chicago citizens that are in an organized gang.

Until the thug culture that doesn't value education, respect, authority, and human life still exists, the gang violence will persist. It all starts with parenting and the family structure. When the parents are gang-banging, drug dealing, or in prison themselves, the children don't feel the affection or family closeness at home, so they turn to gangs at the age of 12.. then it's too late to save them. Unfortunately in that culture, parenting is more of a burden than a privilege.

Then do it like Batman, arrest the whole gang.

[jonnynonos]

Originally Posted by svillechris

Of course it is gang related. Could have told you that the second the news broke. Sending in the National Guard or more state troopers or anything else won't stop the violence. You can have a cop on every street corner and it wouldn't stop gang activity. It may lead to few more arrests, but then the next in line in the gang will step up to perform that arrested-person's duties. Kind of like Al-Qaeda. You chop off one limb by killing one of the leaders, but the network is so broad, others will step in to fill that person's shoes. There are over 70,000 gang members in the city of Chicago. That's about 2.5% of all Chicago citizens that are in an organized gang.

Until the thug culture that doesn't value education, respect, authority, and human life still exists, the gang violence will persist. It all starts with parenting and the family structure. When the parents are gang-banging, drug dealing, or in prison themselves, the children don't feel the affection or family closeness at home, so they turn to gangs at the age of 12.. then it's too late to save them. Unfortunately in that culture, parenting is more of a burden than a privilege.

If you put in the National Guard where it was literally flooded with troops it would physically prevent people from killing each other to a large degree. Maybe after a year, etc., the culture could be moved.

[urza216]

Originally Posted by EJ3791

You find it ironic that people should be offended by a derogatory term? How so?

"Yuppie" isn't a derogatory term.