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Old 03-02-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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To those of you who think gentrification is some amazing thing, I ask: why?
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Schaumburg, please don't hate me for it.
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To those of you who think gentrification is some amazing thing, I ask: why?
Maybe not amazing, but it does bring in people with higher incomes who have more discretionary income to spend and it also drives up property values.

I've rolled with a lot of longtime city natives in my time, and for most of those who sold under gentrification conditions, the sale of their house was the biggest cash prize of their lifetime.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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To those of you who think gentrification is some amazing thing, I ask: why?
Tax revenue.
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:28 PM
 
Location: South Chicagoland
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Also - Black people leaving rough areas on the south and west sides is upward mobility. White flight is white people moving out because they are afraid. It's ridiculous and kinda racist to suggest that's the same thing..
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Also - Black people leaving rough areas on the south and west sides is upward mobility. White flight is white people moving out because they are afraid. It's ridiculous and kinda racist to suggest that's the same thing..
White people moving out of Humboldt Park to the burbs was also upward mobility.
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Maybe not amazing, but it does bring in people with higher incomes who have more discretionary income to spend and it also drives up property values.

I've rolled with a lot of longtime city natives in my time, and for most of those who sold under gentrification conditions, the sale of their house was the biggest cash prize of their lifetime.

So, essentially, gentrification is good because it removes poor people from the city, brings in rich people, and raises property values?
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: South Chicagoland
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White people moving out of Humboldt Park to the burbs was also upward mobility.
Then it wasn't "white flight".
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Schaumburg, please don't hate me for it.
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So, essentially, gentrification is good because it removes poor people from the city, brings in rich people, and raises property values?
Gentrifiers aren't necessarily rich, most that I've known are just people with good paying jobs who also spend a whole lot of that cush on the streets. Chicago would be a dark hole without the commercial vitality and wealth that they create.
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Gentrifiers aren't necessarily rich, most that I've known are just people with good paying jobs who also spend a whole lot of that cush on the streets. Chicago would be a dark hole without the commercial vitality and wealth that they create.
Yes, however, gentrification does nothing to address the poverty that exists in the neighborhoods it affects. It simply removes the poor, usually without any benefit for them. They lose homes, schools, places of worship, and are simply thrown somewhere else.
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I won't hold my breath for an expletive-filled rant from Dennis Franz about how the people who moved into Maywood had no respect for the existing culture...
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