Can I take a minute to complain about the weather here (Chicago: apartments, condos)

[87vertgt]

Hips bars? In bridgport? where?



I only know of Matches, bridgport inn, Gems and puffers and a couple on the east side of Halsted that I have never been too...

which one's do you go too? I need to check it out as I am tired of going downtown to go out...

what type of scene/crowd is it?

[noplacelike]

1 No, it is the provincialism of the transplants that is objected to by the natives.

2 Why would someone come onto a don't like the weather thread and complain about people who don't like the weather?


So, in sum, the weather, new construction, yuppies and transplants suck. Sounds like most major cities I can think of.

[j33]

... and which transplants would those be? I've lived in the Chicago area my whole life and the city since 1992.

I don't have a problem with new construction, transplants whether they be from the suburbs or from halfway around the world, and I'm not even quite sure I know what a 'yuppie' is anymore.

I do know that I don't want to live in Detroit, or any other dying city, and those cities got that way because they don't have 'transplants' ... honestly, look at any successful city (e.g. nyc, boston, los angeles, seattle, etc) ... they are full of transplants, that is what made them successful, look at any dying city, it isn't, because nobody wants to move there and the only people left are the people who were unfortunate enough to be born there.

[noplacelike]

Originally Posted by j33

... and which transplants would those be? I've lived in the Chicago area my whole life and the city since 1992.

I don't have a problem with new construction, transplants whether they be from the suburbs or from halfway around the world, and I'm not even quite sure I know what a 'yuppie' is anymore.

I do know that I don't want to live in Detroit, or any other dying city, and those cities got that way because they don't have 'transplants' ... honestly, look at any successful city (e.g. nyc, boston, los angeles, seattle, etc) ... they are full of transplants, that is what made them successful, look at any dying city, it isn't, because nobody wants to move there and the only people left are the people who were unfortunate enough to be born there.

No, Detroit did not have a good urban renewal plan, obviously, and the area was too focused on one industry. All major cities, which were quite alive and well and therefore attracted transplants, have the problem of losing their original attractive culture by transplants and yuppies. If you don't have a problem with the new construction and don't know what a yuppie is, you are demonstrating my point. San Francisco, Boston, Atlanta, Seattle, New York, Chicago, the numbers are legion, all are experiencing homogenization of their cultures. Some entire states have this problem. You will not find an attractive place that does not have this complaint. The dead places are the ones people move from, not to. The places people move to are as their natives made them, generation after generation.

[j33]

you seem to really like the word 'yuppie' could you define it for me?

...oh, and the 'new construction that I don't mind is the construction that resulted in the crackhouse across the street from my apartment that was town down displacing the criminals who inhabited who spent much of their days breaking into peoples cars, harassing people walking home from the 'el', passing out on peoples stoops, and in one case, trying to burn down a neighborhood garage. In their place moved in what I am assuming are those damnable yuppies you hate so much. They keep their sidewalk shoved, say 'hi' to me on the street, and I've seen them at a local neighborhood meeting or two, and have never passed out drunk on my stoop invited gangbangers around, or set anything on fire ... damn those soulless bastards destroying this city (rolls eyes)

You my friend remind me of those hipsters who hang out at places like Rainbo club and scream and moan about 'gentrification' all night and about how everything was so much better in the days where we played host to almost 1000 murders a year and the city government was broken and almost bankrupt.

[noplacelike]

Originally Posted by j33

you seem to really like the word 'yuppie' could you define it for me?

Heh heh. I think I'll leave that one alone.

[j33]

No, I want to know as they seem to be the root of all of Chicago's problems, I want to know exactly who they are.

... is it anyone who went to college and sits behind a desk, because these days, that is a lot of people.

[noplacelike]

Er, noooo. I went to college and sit behind a desk, but NO ONE has ever mistaken me for a yuppie. Maybe that's because I'm a native, am not obsessed with my career, shopping, restaurants and finding "quality" men?! I don't know.

As is often said, if the shoe fits, wear it. If not, then not.

[j33]

... so yuppies are people who have values (admittedly dubious values) you don't. I'm not necessarily interested in those things either. While I'm not necessarily a native (I was born in Chicago Heights ... go Sox ), and don't care if anyone is a native or not and believe that plays absolutely no baring on anything (as I am most decidedly not a nativist) as I have known many people born in the city and they run the gambit and some even fit your yuppie stereotype . Being that I work in academia and have an advanced degree, my blue collar family joking calls me a yuppie because I did go to college and I don't work in a factory or in the trades ... so forgive me for asking for clarification, I just wanted to know how exactly you defined what is now such an ambiguous and subjective term.

[noplacelike]

Originally Posted by j33

... so yuppies are people who have values (admittedly dubious values) you don't. I'm not necessarily interested in those things either. While I'm not necessarily a native (I was born in Chicago Heights ... go Sox ), and don't care if anyone is a native or not and believe that plays absolutely no baring on anything (as I am most decidedly not a nativist) as I have known many people born in the city and they run the gambit and some even fit your yuppie stereotype . Being that I work in academia and have an advanced degree, my blue collar family joking calls me a yuppie because I did go to college and I don't work in a factory or in the trades ... so forgive me for asking for clarification, I just wanted to know how exactly you defined what is now such an ambiguous and subjective term.

If that is what you call values, and think anyone who does not share them does not have them, then, well, the shoe. However, it is "bearing", and a sentence is not properly begun with "Being that", so, no shoe.

Yuppie is one of those things you know when you see. It is really not worth going into trying to define such a worthless thing. Everyone seems to know what they are except themselves and those that want to be them, apparently.