Can I take a minute to complain about the weather here (Chicago: crime rates, credit)

[neonwattagelimit]

Originally Posted by Steve-o

Upstate NY has better winters than Chicago? LOL Thats a new one!

As for Tucson, its winters are pretty mild, but can get snow too. Of course it doesnt stick around long, but if you think AZ has the mildest winters, youre dead wrong. While youre at a warm-ish 60 high and 40 low, Miami is basking in the 80s. Compared to south Florida, AZ's winters are downright freeeeezing cold, especially at night. And from May to October, your humidity levels are usually under 10%, sometimes 0%, NEVER 90% (even with the arrival of the monsoons).

As for the OP, if youre a winter wuss (as most people are), may I suggest you live in Florida or maybe SoCal or AZ. But then be prepared for miserably hot and long summers.

I'm pretty sure the dude was saying that upstate NY has more severe winters than Chicago, while the city doesn't. Which is true. I looked up some numbers, to prepare myself, it snows more and is colder in upstate NY than in Chicago. But NYC's winters are absolutely milder, just look at some stats.

People tend to think that it snows a lot more in NYC than it actually does, I've noticed. Movies and TV shows set in New York during wintertime always have snow on the ground, which is sort of a false picture. It does snow here, and while amounts vary greatly from winter to winter, it generally doesn't snow THAT often. Moreover, when it does snow, it usually melts pretty quickly, as it's rarely below freezing for more than three or four days at a time. I'm 23, I've lived in New York my whole life, and I think I've seen three white Christmases, for example. The temperature drops below zero maybe once a decade.

Of course we do get some serious, brutal cold. On the whole, Chicago's winters are considerably more severe, but not to the point that a New Yorker would have a massive amount of difficulty adjusting. At least that's what I hope

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by neonwattagelimit

I'm pretty sure the dude was saying that upstate NY has more severe winters than Chicago, while the city doesn't. Which is true. I looked up some numbers, to prepare myself, it snows more and is colder in upstate NY than in Chicago. But NYC's winters are absolutely milder, just look at some stats.

People tend to think that it snows a lot more in NYC than it actually does, I've noticed. Movies and TV shows set in New York during wintertime always have snow on the ground, which is sort of a false picture. It does snow here, and while amounts vary greatly from winter to winter, it generally doesn't snow THAT often. Moreover, when it does snow, it usually melts pretty quickly, as it's rarely below freezing for more than three or four days at a time. I'm 23, I've lived in New York my whole life, and I think I've seen three white Christmases, for example. The temperature drops below zero maybe once a decade.

Of course we do get some serious, brutal cold. On the whole, Chicago's winters are considerably more severe, but not to the point that a New Yorker would have a massive amount of difficulty adjusting. At least that's what I hope

I would definitely agree that NYCs winters are a bit milder, no doubt. I might have misunderstood, but I thought that poster was saying that upstate NY has better winters than CHI, which I would wholeheartedly disagree. NYCs storms seem to be alot more severe, and occur more also. We get several more days of below freezing temps than they do, but our storms seem to be weaker.

[desert student]

Originally Posted by 87vertgt

Car accidents everywhere today.....slush everywhere...

yeah I am tired of winter!!! it sucks!! Chicago sucks when it's snowing and you gotta drive 75 miles a day!!


San Diego...if you were cheaper I would be there

Me too! But I'm heading back to Tempe in a few days, so the bad weather won't really won't start bothering me again until about the middle of May. But then again, pools are far more abudant in Phoenix than in Chicago, so that won't even be a problem.

[teshorr]

steve-o & neon--

I was indeed saying the upstate NY winters are MORE severe, not LESS, than Chicago.

PS, I'm a girl, not a "dude"

[sweetclimber]

Originally Posted by Steve-o

Upstate NY has better winters than Chicago? LOL Thats a new one!

As for Tucson, its winters are pretty mild, but can get snow too. Of course it doesnt stick around long, but if you think AZ has the mildest winters, youre dead wrong. While youre at a warm-ish 60 high and 40 low, Miami is basking in the 80s. Compared to south Florida, AZ's winters are downright freeeeezing cold, especially at night. And from May to October, your humidity levels are usually under 10%, sometimes 0%, NEVER 90% (even with the arrival of the monsoons).

As for the OP, if youre a winter wuss (as most people are), may I suggest you live in Florida or maybe SoCal or AZ. But then be prepared for miserably hot and long summers.

Weather in upstate NY is snowier, but Chicago is probably colder, either way I like the weather in both places

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by 87vertgt

Car accidents everywhere today.....slush everywhere...

yeah I am tired of winter!!! it sucks!! Chicago sucks when it's snowing and you gotta drive 75 miles a day!!


San Diego...if you were cheaper I would be there

You could always move to the Phoenix, Arizona area. Lots of jobs and the weather is a lot warmer. Oh and it is cheap to live there too. You can buy a home for under $200,000 (The new home I am buying is now selling for $169,000.) There are lots of rentals in the area also from $300 a month and on up.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

You could always move to the Phoenix, Arizona area. Lots of jobs and the weather is a lot warmer. Oh and it is cheap to live there too. You can buy a home for under $200,000 (The new home I am buying is now selling for $169,000.) There are lots of rentals in the area also from $300 a month and on up.

Yeah, but you forget to mention that Phoenix is a terrible place to live! It's basically a hot strip mall (to borrow a phrase from a former post).

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

Yeah, but you forget to mention that Phoenix is a terrible place to live! It's basically a hot strip mall (to borrow a phrase from a former post).

I love the Phoenix area. We are having a home built there right now in the city of Surprise, a subburb of Phoenix. Saying that Phoenix is a hot strip mall is a lot like me saying that Chicago is a washed up old town. Both are not true. I also love Chicago. My mom grew up there and we visited when I was a kid. Haven't been there in 20 years though. Reading the threads it is nice to see that so many new areas are being built, or that young urban professionals are moving into the area. Anytime you have growth that is a good thing for a city and community. Phoenix is more of a California kind of city than even an Arizona city. So many have left So Cal for Phoenix. Surprise reminds me of a young Thousand Oaks, California or like a lot of cities in the Orange County area just without the ocean. What they are missing is the cool downtown area that you all have in Chicago. I love that place.

[desert student]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

Yeah, but you forget to mention that Phoenix is a terrible place to live! It's basically a hot strip mall (to borrow a phrase from a former post).

"a hot strip mall"

Now there is post that is just full of wisdom and knowledge.

Then what does that make Chicagland? A cold/humid strip mall? I'm going to be honest here. There are far more commercial outlets within the suburbs of Chicago than anything Phoenix has yet to dish out. The people of Chicagoland are far more into themselves when it comes to retail, then anything that I have seen in Arizona. The only difference is, people hide behind the fact that Chicago has a skyline, and a downtown. Oh, and a few Fortune 500 companies. But then again, Houston has more, and Houston is smaller than Chicago! LOL! Even if your statement had any truth to it, I would glady take strip mall chaos, than anything that comes from the massive ghetto that is southern, and western Chicago. Heck, even the northern parts are seeing an upsurge in crime. Kinda sad when New York is so much bigger than Chi-town, yet has far less crime.

By the way, if it is such a terrible place to live, why one earth do so many prior Chicago residents call it home? Why are current Chicago residents flooding our streets, and paying for our growing infrastructure, TODAY!? Why is it the fastest growing place in the nation? Why have its suburbs been rated time and time again as the best places to live in nation? Why is Phoenix going to pass Chicago in population shortly? Why is Phoenix able to sustain suburbs that have populations that are bigger than other nasty, Rust Belt, midwest cities?

[via chicago]

Originally Posted by desert student

Why is Phoenix able to sustain suburbs that have populations that are bigger than other nasty, Rust Belt, midwest cities?

"Sustainable" remains to be seen...