Uptown renaissance, or how to live like a bum for $1,000 a month (Chicago: apartment, rental)

[via chicago]

Originally Posted by probablyimnotsure

So, not all Chicago's Northside is desirable. From what I am hearing about the reputation of Edgewater, Rogers Park, and Uptown, sounds like the Northside has its problems (gang) just like the Southside and Westside. Maybe not to the same extent, I guess.

There are gangs in every neighborhood of Chicago. It is a big city with big city problems. But no, not to the same extent.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by probablyimnotsure

So, not all Chicago's Northside is desirable. From what I am hearing about the reputation of Edgewater, Rogers Park, and Uptown, sounds like the Northside has its problems (gang) just like the Southside and Westside. Maybe not to the same extent, I guess.

Edgewater is actually very safe. So is most of Uptown. Of the three Rogers Park has the most issues. You have to remember there a lot of idiots on city data.

[via chicago]

The truly bad areas of the city you do not just accidentally wind up in, and if you do you realize it pretty quickly.

Also for anyone whos interested in what Uptown used to be like (and in some ways still is), I highly recommend buying this man's book (or just skimming the photographs. they are phenomenal)

http://bobrehak.com/wordpress/portfolio-2/documentary/

[A2DAC1985]

Originally Posted by ChicagoMeO

"The poor".

People are worried that "the poor" are being dissed and kicked to the curb. however, if a building that is an SRO is housing criminals, drug dealers, drug addicts, and other assorted undesirable people, and is causing danger to the surrounding neighborhood, then it should be changed. like the one SRO hotel up in Lakeview, by Sheridan and Broadway, i haven't lived near there, but when that place was changed, the neighbors were glad. must have been trouble.

the thing is the poor that live there somehow also attract other lousy people and so blame the lousy drug dealers, gang bangers and other assorted low lifes that have ruined it for "the poor". dont blame people who are trying to improve the safety of the neighborhood.

anyway life goes on, housing gets improved, someone wants to make money which is reasonable from their property and they have a right to do with it as they want.

maybe the poor need to find a way NOT to be poor and that would solve that.

yeah i know im heartless about the mentally ill that have been kicked out of institutions back a few decades ago, however, a lot of "the poor" dont have to be "the poor" if they had used all the welfare wisely and not tried to be a bum. they should have been going to school or finding a job so that they dont have to be "the poor".

bleeding heart liberals use "the poor" as a scapegoat to enable more of life that is keeping them "the poor".

If memory serves me correctly, ChicagoMeO doesn't live in Chicago anymore, but rather the burbs.

And people wonder why I would make a thread like this: Where does Chicago end?

There are plenty of people in Chicago that are crazy (I run into them all the time). We've got that covered. We don't want, need, or desire to have crazy from the burbs claiming to represent people that actually live in Chicago.



For the OP: I don't know. I've been in Uptown less than a year. Can't compare it to 3+ years ago. But I can say it is more active and alive than my previous neighborhood of Albany Park, especially on side streets.

My $0.02

[steeps]

Originally Posted by probablyimnotsure

So, not all Chicago's Northside is desirable. From what I am hearing about the reputation of Edgewater, Rogers Park, and Uptown, sounds like the Northside has its problems (gang) just like the Southside and Westside. Maybe not to the same extent, I guess.

Chicago went through racial change DRASTICALLY in the 60s into the 70s. White flight to newer Northwest and Southwest side neighborhoods and the suburbs. Perhaps in a day and age we utilize Affirmative Action to correct wrongs. Gentrification is mere a means today a city can revive and increase tax base. Without it perhaps Detroit's direction would come? BUT THE NORTHSIDE IS NOT BAD. BUT IT IS A BIG CITY.

I give this GOOGLE 360* Of the heart of the North side's Humboldt Park. Looks darn good to me diversified as it is in ethnicity.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9046...wg!2e0!6m1!1e1

Also the Northwest side its 60s Chicago Bungalow-ranch homes.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9791...Vg!2e0!6m1!1e1

[glass_of_merlot]

I have never heard or seen any crimes taken place in Uptown. It's not that bad at all.

[ChicagoMeO]

Originally Posted by A2DAC1985

If memory serves me correctly, ChicagoMeO doesn't live in Chicago anymore, but rather the burbs.

And people wonder why I would make a thread like this: Where does Chicago end?

There are plenty of people in Chicago that are crazy (I run into them all the time). We've got that covered. We don't want, need, or desire to have crazy from the burbs claiming to represent people that actually live in Chicago.



For the OP: I don't know. I've been in Uptown less than a year. Can't compare it to 3+ years ago. But I can say it is more active and alive than my previous neighborhood of Albany Park, especially on side streets.

My $0.02

No i live in Chicago, i was planning to move to suburbs but i changed that. i live in the city.

i have lived in Uptown, and other places, and in various parts of the city including the south side. I have lived in the suburbs also a few years. I've been in Lakeview and Beverly, and Austin near Oak Park which is now the west side. i've lived EVERYWHERE, including northwest Indiana.

i can tell you that the best part of Uptown would be Margate Park. i think the worst part is by Truman College but even back then when i went there, crazy people walked by but did not harm me. they just talked to themselves a lot.

so what do you want to know

[ChicagoMeO]

Originally Posted by steeps

Chicago went through racial change DRASTICALLY in the 60s into the 70s. White flight to newer Northwest and Southwest side neighborhoods and the suburbs. Perhaps in a day and age we utilize Affirmative Action to correct wrongs. Gentrification is mere a means today a city can revive and increase tax base. Without it perhaps Detroit's direction would come? BUT THE NORTHSIDE IS NOT BAD. BUT IT IS A BIG CITY.

I give this GOOGLE 360* Of the heart of the North side's Humboldt Park. Looks darn good to me diversified as it is in ethnicity.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9046...wg!2e0!6m1!1e1

Also the Northwest side its 60s Chicago Bungalow-ranch homes.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9791...Vg!2e0!6m1!1e1

and they are STILL white flighting northwest! the northwest side is now considered the west side in a couple of reports where they called it that.. Has the west side expanded or was that just someone's perception? Im talking about like Cicero Ave and Belmont. or even Pulaski and Kimball.

the northwest side used to be polish, italian, german but now its hispanic a lot. my old block was totally caucasian, now its 80% hispanic. all the old folks moved out more like to Edison Park, and that way.

[NealIRC]

Originally Posted by probablyimnotsure

So, not all Chicago's Northside is desirable. From what I am hearing about the reputation of Edgewater, Rogers Park, and Uptown, sounds like the Northside has its problems (gang) just like the Southside and Westside. Maybe not to the same extent, I guess.

The North side is easily 40% of the city (less if you count in a West side), so of course there are bad areas in the North side.

Chicago is very White in the Northwest side, say, Jefferson Park, Forest Glen, and the neighborhoods as you approach O'hare airport. Including around the city-locked suburbs, by the HIP mall.

Most of the shootings in far north Rogers Park and in Uptown are between Blacks and are classified as "gang-related."

So far, I've never seen an interracial shooting in Uptown.

[NealIRC]

Originally Posted by ChicagoMeO

and they are STILL white flighting northwest! the northwest side is now considered the west side in a couple of reports where they called it that.. Has the west side expanded or was that just someone's perception? Im talking about like Cicero Ave and Belmont. or even Pulaski and Kimball.

Aha, even Humboldt Park the Sun Times and Tribune refer to as the northwest side, and that's not good.

Originally Posted by ChicagoMeO

the northwest side used to be polish, italian, german but now its hispanic a lot. my old block was totally caucasian, now its 80% hispanic. all the old folks moved out more like to Edison Park, and that way.

South of Belmont is very Hispanic and north of it is very White. Belmont is the dividing line between the heavily Polish neighborhood Portage Park, and Belmont-Cragin. By Belmont I mean west of Cicero.