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Old 01-01-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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That was LeClaire Courts. For the most part those are getting boarded up and the residents are headed elsewhere.
Independent of LeClaire Courts, the area around there has been going down the tubes gradually for the past 10 -15 years. I don't see the trend reversing.
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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wouldn't that be the first murder of 2011?
Is the murder recorded at time of death of time of offense. He was stabbed at 1130pm but wasn't pronounced dead until 1:30am, which would make it 2011.
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Old 01-01-2011, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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wouldn't that be the first murder of 2011?
The medical examiner probably did not examine him until after the ball dropped. That does not change the time of death. If the doctors said he was dead before midnight he was dead before midnight. The ME is just a formality.

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Old 01-01-2011, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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As of 12/20, 438 homicides in Chicago according to Red Eye. Last year there were 450 by 12/20.
The city is monkeying with the numbers or the Redeye/Tribune is way off. The city is reporting the total as 435 today. That is impossible. Oakparkdude counted 438 as of 12/20 and I counted 434 as of the 12/13. From what I can gather, the total for the year is more like 444-445.

Of course, "The department expects to release its official 2010 crime statistics sometime this month."

Chicago murder rate the lowest since 1965 - Chicago Breaking News (http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2011/01/chicago-murder-rate-the-lowest-since-1965.html - broken link)

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Old 01-01-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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What I don't get how are crimes declining when the CPD is down over 1000 officers?
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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What I don't get how are crimes declining when the CPD is down over 1000 officers?
because people are getting their heads together.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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Because crime not reported is like the crime never took place. When people are told they have to wait hours for a theft report, etc. guess what, they aren't reporting it. It's that simple and clear. Less Officers means longer wait times for non-violent (and at times violent) crimes. A crime is considered a "crime" once a report and UCR is done for it. So if a person wants to file a Battery report, but gets sick of waiting, well no report equals no crime. See where this is going? Then it's nothing for down the road for even when a report is done, the "powers that be" reclassify it. So before what was Aggravated Assault with a Firearm gets reclassified into regular Assault. Crime stats are manipulated plain and simple. It's a shell game. There are at least a dozen death investigations that in a month or two will be reclassified as homicides. But by then it's already old news. The 2010 stats will reflect the changes but by then no one cares. Also, to get felony charges approved in Cook County, which Chicago is in, is a real pain. Usually the ASA's only approve slam dunks as felonies. So yet again another manipulation. So people can believe crime is down, it's the stats that are down. Remember, a crime never reported or reclassified is like the crime never took place when it really did.
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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What I don't get how are crimes declining when the CPD is down over 1000 officers?
Less officers on the beat to respond to calls and less officers on the street patrol (pick the perp, id checks, dui's etc.) means fewer incidents of crime are being reported. This is a nation-wide trend. To me crime seems much more violent and increasingly more random.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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Great murder rates are down...some interesting bit of information I found out yesterday morning is that the Chicago Police committed the first homicide of 2011. And yes it was ruled a homicide. Not to say anything bad about cops or turn this into a cop hating thread or anything
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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Nope, no offense would be taken. When someone tries to kill a cop, I'll gladly take the badguys death as a homicide. What else could it be classified as? Homicide is simply one person killing another regardless of circumstance.
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