Cook County Gun Ban (Chicago: house, train, rain)

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by CreepinDeth

...You don't have a clue.
The majority of people in Chicago for starters are ILL informed of these
events, and #2, WHEN informed, these bills are attempted ANNUALLY and
are denied continuously. Daley didn't get the vote of the people to ban
guns in Chicago, he just did it. Get your facts straight...

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Just to help you on facts- Mayor Daley was not the mayor in 1982 when the "registration" and possession of "new" handguns were made illegal in Chicago. It was Mayor Byrne.

However, he was the Cook County States Attorney at that time.

"I didn't state he was the Mayor in 1982.
But I can see how my statements were left open to perception.
It doesn't deter the fact of the matter though. "



Yeah you did.

[Chinolala]

I've lived in Chicago and Cook County for most of my entire life and couldn't care less that we can't own guns. It's never been a problem for me or anyone else I know. If was into guns, I suppose I'd live somewhere else. I'm fine with the way it is now or even if gun laws get stricter in the county.

[Avengerfire]

The Supreme Court ruling on D.C.'s gun ban is coming this week probably. If it is stricken down the Chicago ban will in extreme jeopardy.

"Officials at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said recently that they expect Washington's 32-year-old handgun ban to fall but believe that background checks, limits on large-volume gun sales and prohibitions on certain categories of weapons can survive."


The Associated Press: Gun rights is biggest issue for court to decide

[Manigault]

I believe that the Chicago city council just voted to allow for the re-registering of guns whose registration was not allowed due to a lapse in the registration.

And, like others, I am constantaly surprised by gun enthusiats' beliefs that:

You must live in an area which allows concealed carry of handguns in order to protect yourself;
You must have a handgun in your home to protect yourself;
Any type of gun control is the slippery slope to 'gun grabbing'.

None of this is true. A shotgun and a dog are far better for protecting your home than a handgun. We have had gun control measures for more than 200 years in this country without guns being grabbed away from the citizenry. Plus concealed carry by the public creates its own set of problems.

One problem is that the NRA gains membership and adherents by fostering a feeling of 'us against them' in this country and making sure that emotions stay up to a fever pitch. Trouble right here in River City.

Myself, I'm a gun owner and a hunter and a Cook County resident.

[Humboldt1]

This is awesome news. Will Chicago allow for concealed carry or not?

I would favor this as it would allow me to walk in certain areas where I am presently afraid to go unarmed.

Just curious, why is Jesse Jackson so against handguns?

[Manigault]

Originally Posted by Humboldt1

This is awesome news. Will Chicago allow for concealed carry or not?

I would favor this as it would allow me to walk in certain areas where I am presently afraid to go unarmed.

Just curious, why is Jesse Jackson so against handguns?

I think Rev. Jackson is against the illegal sale of handguns to those barred by law from possessing them and the illegal use of handguns. There's a big difference.

All I know is that's what he's been protesting about. You could check the P.U.S.H. website.

[Irishtom29]

Once I was in this low-rent gunstore in Joilet and there were several gang-banger types in there looking at "junk guns", cheap high capacity magazine machine pistols like Macs and Techs and such. I asked the owner, a kind's biker lookin' guy, if he didn't feel like the bad guy in the Western movies who sold repeating rifles to the hostile Indians.

He got angry and told me to leave.

[Attrill]

Originally Posted by Manigault

And, like others, I am constantaly surprised by gun enthusiats' beliefs that:

You must live in an area which allows concealed carry of handguns in order to protect yourself;
You must have a handgun in your home to protect yourself;
Any type of gun control is the slippery slope to 'gun grabbing'.

None of this is true. A shotgun and a dog are far better for protecting your home than a handgun....

Exactly. As someone who has been the victim of violent crime a couple of times I can say that it isn't like a movie or crappy TV show where you are in a showdown with a bunch of gang members and you have a chance to even get a gun drawn. In my experience you get blindsided out of nowhere or someone who is pretty sketchy just snaps (a homeless guy I'd talked to many times in my case). Even if I had a gun in those instances I wouldn't have had any time to use it, and even if I had, I wouldn't have shot them over the $10-$40 I had on me at the time. If you're worried about crime while walking around just get some mace.

Defending my home is different, I have a 90 lb. dog as well as a fire extinguisher and 5 D cell mag-light under the bed. I own a number of rifles and shotguns (mostly historical, a BAR, Enfield, replica 1803 Harper's Ferry, etc...) none of which I would use to defend myself from a home invader (I keep them all at a friend's farm where I go to shoot them). It makes a lot more sense to be alerted by a dog, and if the intruder is enough of a crackhead to keep coming, just hit em in the face with the fire extinguisher and then beat on them with the mag-light and call the cops. But I think the odds of having to do that are much lower than having to use them to put out a fire or find my way around the house during a power outage.

[Irishtom29]

What kind of Enfield Attril? My bando is an SMLE made in 1918. Give the buggers rule .303.

[Attrill]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

What kind of Enfield Attril? My bando is an SMLE made in 1918. Give the buggers rule .303.

Nice! I've got a standard run of the mill No. 4 Mk I* (made in Canada, in '43 I think). I got it for next to nothing, and it has had no modifications made to it. I really like it a lot, some of the best shooting I've done has been with it using the .303s from Sierra.