07-26-2015, 11:03 PM
Location: In the heights
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...and there should be no real support for this.
The primary purpose of the Metra system is to ferry commuters to workplaces. The vast majority of resources are dedicated toward the "live in the suburbs / work in the Loop" scenario, a significantly smaller amount of resources are devoted to the reverse commute because that reduces the pressure that otherwise results in clogged roadways and employees being reliant on personal vehicles. It should not come as a surprise to anyone that the majority of profitable ridership for CTA and Pace buses similarly are devoted to getting workers to employment sites.
The handful of suburban transit users that currently utilize rail or bus for recreational purposes may someday increase, but the relative expenditures required to extend the infrastructure to things like the Forest Preserves, and the subsequent negative consequences on the maintenance of both the transit facilities as well as the Forest Preserves themselves, which are grossly neglected due to decades of fiscal mismanagement cannot be overstated...
The US is not Europe or Japan. There is no tradition of heading to Zermat or Mt. Fuji via rail, even in places like Colorado the operation of such rail facilities has been for tourism and is a rather fascination look at how US firms largely were not interested in this specialized need --
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manito...s_Peak_Railway
Well, save for a few east coast cities which does have hiking trails within commuter rail distance. That's why I'm surprised--I've done hiking by getting dropped off by commuter rail in these places before. Keep in mind, it seems pretty certain that the other three commuter rail services might also have their primary purposes be to ferry commuters to workplaces, but I might be wrong. It might have been that most people were on these trains as a pleasure cruise and decided to wear shoes that seemed uncomfortable for hiking. Hell, maybe I was wrong about those shoes, too. Oughtta teach me to not judge shoes by their covers.
I have never lived in Chicago, but I figured since there was the Cook County Forest Preserves so close by and a very extensive commuter rail network, it seemed likely that there'd be at least a weekend stop or two within easy walking distance of a decent hike. It's interesting to me that there isn't.
Though, it does seem like Indiana Dunes would fit the bill and the OP specifically said that he's not looking for that.
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07-28-2015, 10:18 AM
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Again - I'll reiterate that the Willow Springs stop is right next to the largest contiguous area of forested land in Cook County. It has hills, creeks, rivers, lakes, etc. You would just have to walk like 20 minutes from the train station tops through a neighborhood to get to the entrance.
09-15-2016, 09:46 PM
Location: Chicago, IL
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Amtrak Options to Hilly/Mountainous Cities/Towns
Relatively Close
Wisconsin Dells or La Crosse, WI via Empire Builder.
Alton, IL via Lincoln Service.
Medium Distance
Cincinnati, OH via Cardinal.
Pittsburgh, PA via Capitol Limited.
Long Distance
Fraser, CO via California Zephyr.
Glacier National Park, MT via Empire Builder.
09-16-2016, 10:08 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Why not just drive the 2.5 hours to Galena and explore out there? You can visit the Mississippi Palisades, Apple River Canyon, etc, and hike your heart out. Not to mention downtown Galena has some of the best architecture in all of IL.
09-16-2016, 11:29 AM
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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Take the Metra Heritage Corridor from Union Station to Willow Springs.
Walk south - have fun for hours. I suggest Swallow Cliff.
Metra Heritage Corridor has a ridiculously limited schedule, in one direction only (3 trains inbound in the morning, 4 trains outbound in the afternoon). I'm not sure how that can be of any use to the OP, except to actually drive and pay to park in the Metra lot. (There is a pedestrian bridge leading from there to the trail, I think.) That said, the hiking trail along the Illinois and Michigan Canal is out of this world! You can just feel the history there.
09-16-2016, 11:30 AM
Location: Wicker Park/East Village area
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Yes you're really limiting yourself by using trains, ZIPCAR lets u rent cars by the hour and is fairly reasonable.
09-16-2016, 04:43 PM
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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Wish I'd seen this thread sooner, and a year earlier! Sigh, I did not.
Starved Rock State Park was mentioned in this thread, where honestly I doubt you'd get a lot of cabs or even Uber to help you traveling that far west. For that, I'd suggest talking to someone with a car, and doing a group trip there.
If you're asking about good places to hike accessible from Metra, take the Metra Union Pacific West line to Geneva, and head over to the park and trail paralleling the Fox River. You can go for miles and miles along that trail, at least as far south as Aurora(also with passenger rail service), and as far north as Crystal Lake. Heck if you want to ride Union Pacific Northwest instead of UP-West, one can even theoretically bike or hike on an off street trail all the way north from Crystal Lake to Genoa City, WI, which is immediately north of the Illinois/Wisconsin state line. If you want to go all that distance to Richmond or Genoa City, I'd recommend a bike. UP-West schedule:
https://metrarail.com/sites/default/...w_05232016.pdf
From the Edgebrook Metra station on the Milwaukee District North line, you can pick up the start of the North Branch trail that goes all the way north to the Chicago Botanic Garden. You also could walk a few blocks to a point that allows you to pick up that trail a few 3 miles north of its southern end, from Morton Grove. Also you could walk west from Braeside(at Lake Cook Road) Metra station on the Union Pacific North line to the Chicago Botanic Garden's north entrance to pick up the northern end of the North Branch trail, or take a shuttle from Glencoe into the Botanic Garden. Eventually sometime within the next few years, the North Branch trail will be extended south to LaBagh Woods, on Foster east of Cicero. Milwaukee District North schedule:
https://metrarail.com/sites/default/...n_05112016.pdf
There also are other ones you could try, such as the Green Bay/Robert McClory trail that parallels the Union Pacific North line all the way north to the IL/WI state line, and from there continues as a trail(name changes to Kenosha County Bike Trail) to ending somewhere in west Racine, where it hits a city park along the Root River. Keep in mind in Kenosha, there are a few miles where you have to go on local streets, then the Kenosha County bike trail starts again. Also, there is LESS frequent Metra train service between Waukegan and Kenosha vs. Waukegan and points south, so keep that in mind if you want to do such an extended hike. Plus of course, one could try going to Illinois Beach State Park in Zion, and trying to hike on its trails through the southern end of that park. Like I said earlier in this paragraph, UP-North train times to Zion are less frequent vs. to Waukegan and points south. So in case you do such a trip beyond Waukegan, I recommend going on a weekday or Saturday, and NOT so much Sunday where the train times from Chicago to Zion and Kenosha are the most limited. Here's the UP-North schedule:
https://metrarail.com/sites/default/...04052016_0.pdf
South of Chicago, like another person said the trail paralleling the I and M Canal is not a bad one, but be warned the Metra Heritage Corridor train service is limited to 3 very early northbound morning weekday rush hour train runs(NO reverse direction service), and 4 outbound weekday runs in the afternoon. The series of forest preserves south of Willow Springs that others mentioned with trails like Swallow Cliff forest preserve look good, but you might want to Uber back to a Metra Rock Island stop. Use Google Maps, to get an idea of what route would work best for you. This isn't a possibility yet, but there are plans to eventually expand the Cal Sag trail east to connect with downtown Blue Island(accessible from the Metra Rock Island line from Blue Island-Vermont Street) sometime in the next few years. Even as of right now, Blue Island's downtown is pretty historic and fun to walk and explore for yourself(check out Google Street View to look at Blue Island's downtown north and south of the Calumet Sag Channel, to see for yourself), plus there are good restaurants and bars like Maple Tree Inn, Rock Island Public House, and Blue Island Brewing Company.
Finally for further south Chicago near Metra stations, you could try going to the Old Plank Road trail and hiking or biking on that trail. You only have to walk just over a half mile from the New Lenox station on the Rock Island line down Cedar Road to where you pick up the Old Plank trail. If you go all the way east to Wolf Road, it's only a very short distance north(and Lincoln Highway/Wolf Road has a traffic light with a marked crosswalk) to Tribes Beer Company within a strip mall, which both has good beer and food. Also you can access the Old Plank trail from the Matteson(215th Street) Metra Electric stop. On your way there or back especially if you get a Metra weekend pass, I'd suggest stopping at Flossmoor Station for a bite to eat, and/or their own beers. It's literally located just down the stairs, from the Flossmoor Metra Electric stop. Keep in mind that EVEN this far south(including Mokena and Joliet, and I once had to use Uber to travel east to Metra Electric after I missed the last northbound Rock Island train on a Sunday), you could use Uber(and perhaps also Lyft, I'm less sure about Lyft since I hadn't used that) to get between places you want to go.
Heritage Corridor Metra schedule:
https://metrarail.com/sites/default/...m90_tt_web.pdf
Amtrak Illinois services schedule(look for train times between Chicago and Saint Louis, for service to Summit and Joliet):
https://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/70/301/...e-011116,0.pdf
Rock Island Metra schedule:
https://metrarail.com/sites/default/...tt_web_rid.pdf
Metra Electric schedule:
https://metrarail.com/sites/default/...e_02092016.pdf
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People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)