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04-07-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sukwoo
The top 1% also earn nearly 22% of all income.
Seriously, all of us who have been blessed with financial success should be a lot more humble. Although there is some component of innate ability (intelligence, hard-work, etc), there's a lot more that's out of our control (primarily, but not exclusively circumstance of birth.)
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My biggest problem with taxes is that they support this idea that the federal government should continue to blow money like crazy. Well, they need to blow more money? Let's just raise taxes!
As anyone who has ever had a drug-abusing relative knows, you can only give people so much. After that, it's not worthwhile to sink money into them. When the federal government does, there are real consequences to its spending habits which distort the economy and create problems.
Those of us who earn more do not owe our "excess", by whatever means my money is not really mine anymore, to anyone else. Nor are we the personal bank account class of Americans, here to spit out money like an ATM so that Congress can bankroll its retarded schemes.
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04-07-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by coldwine
My biggest problem with taxes is that they support this idea that the federal government should continue to blow money like crazy. Well, they need to blow more money? Let's just raise taxes!
As anyone who has ever had a drug-abusing relative knows, you can only give people so much. After that, it's not worthwhile to sink money into them. When the federal government does, there are real consequences to its spending habits which distort the economy and create problems.
Those of us who earn more do not owe our "excess", by whatever means my money is not really mine anymore, to anyone else. Nor are we the personal bank account class of Americans, here to spit out money like an ATM so that Congress can bankroll its retarded schemes.
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Just eight years ago we had higher Federal taxes which were lowered by the Bush tax cuts. Obama is proposing that we go back to the tax structure of the Clinton years. Of course, everyone remembers the economic misery of the 90s where we had high growth rates, low unemployment, and a decreasing budget deficit. Definitely want to avoid a repeat of those horrible times.
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04-07-2009, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by softdev
None of us ever threatened anyone with violence...
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You're not capable of it. Besides, your type hires it done. Which costs you in.......taxes.
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04-07-2009, 06:53 PM
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I'm willing to pay more taxes to help my country and countrymen. But I'm noble, not just a villein with some dough.
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04-07-2009, 07:23 PM
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You're not capable of it. Besides, your type hires it done. Which costs you in.......taxes.
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I am proudly quite incapable of a desire to harm someone. I use my brain to win conflicts.
hire someone? What sick fantasy world do you live in? Now stop talking. [mod cut]
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04-07-2009, 08:00 PM
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It's funny how everyone says that about the next income bracket above them.
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Originally Posted by jdiddy
Really, if you can't afford a few percentage points increase worth of a tax on only a percentage of your salary when you're making 200K+, then you are a moron, pure and simple.
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04-07-2009, 08:18 PM
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I am proudly quite incapable of a desire to harm someone. I use my brain to win conflicts.
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Your brain eh? And get others to do the harm for you?
And don't gimme this "you're incapable of a desire to harm someone" BS. The last guy that was really true of is having His big holiday celebrated come Sunday. Besides, if you were "quite incapable of a desire to harm someone" you wouldn't act so brash and insulting, you know, like saying I'm late with your pizza. Which also shows a quite unChristlike attitude towards those who perform humble yet honest work. So how is you guys have contempt for people who don't work but also hold work itself in contempt? I don't get that.
It's true you're proud though. Well hubris might be a more fitting term.
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04-07-2009, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by softdev
I am proudly quite incapable of a desire to harm someone. I use my brain to win conflicts.
hire someone? What sick fantasy world do you live in? Now stop talking. You're late delivering my pizza.
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No,I am delivering your pizza and I spit in it. Sucker.
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04-07-2009, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sukwoo
Just eight years ago we had higher Federal taxes which were lowered by the Bush tax cuts. Obama is proposing that we go back to the tax structure of the Clinton years. Of course, everyone remembers the economic misery of the 90s where we had high growth rates, low unemployment, and a decreasing budget deficit. Definitely want to avoid a repeat of those horrible times.
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We sure did. And you may thank Reagan and Bush Sr. for all those things.
All Clinton did was ignore the SEC's pleas that Congress reign in venture capital.
And that was surely a bad idea, because 2002 was a fabulous year for venture.
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04-07-2009, 09:23 PM
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There's beauty in the solace of not giving a damn.
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There was also the little matter of cutting long-term capital gains taxes, and that's when the economy really took off again in the 90s.
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