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Old 04-11-2009, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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We are all limited by luck, circumstance, and genetics. Those who apply that small component of free will that we all possess to get the most out of what they are given are the ones who I admire and consider successful. That could equally be a factory worker, a teacher, or a business mogul. I would say though that it includes many fewer people than those who generally consider themselves a great success.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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We are all limited by luck, circumstance, and genetics. Those who apply that small component of free will that we all possess to get the most out of what they are given are the ones who I admire and consider successful. That could equally be a factory worker, a teacher, or a business mogul. I would say though that it includes many fewer people than those who generally consider themselves a great success.
Well stated.
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:43 PM
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I have met plenty of intelligent and hard-working people in my travels to Mexico, who are living just above the poverty line. They are not any dumber or lazier than some yuppie wall-street banker. They made no conscious choice to be born where they were, and anyone who thinks that "luck has nothing to do with success" is completely delusional.
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Old 04-12-2009, 05:23 AM
 
Location: IL
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^ I agree. It's very clear that those born in wealthy families have a higher chance of success. The resources that are available to them (education, networking, lifestyles) help maintain their social status and class. One does not have the choice to what social class they are born in or what country.
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Old 04-13-2009, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Volker, Kansas City, MO
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It's not just about wealth either though -- that's my key point. My mom was raising me and my three brothers alone with very little help as a special ed teacher with a masters and 20+ years of experience making less than 35k a year.

The differences between a lower middle class family teetering on the edge like mine and one in the same boat whose parent(s) was/were uneducated and didn't place a high priority on education are immense.
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:33 PM
 
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Tell me the probability that I would be born to the couple in the next flat? The answer is of course 0% as they could not produce my unique genetic makeup.
Right, cause that would take some strange potion cooked up by a mad super villain and a radioactive spider!
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