Chicago must hike most homeowners' property taxes by 2.5 % (Atlanta: home, to buy)

[MarianRavenwood]

Originally Posted by Manterro

Nothing's going to change in this city. It's been corrupt for so long, people think it's normal for Chicago to operate this way. If any change is coming, it's a long, long, time away. If you're happy here and you can afford to be taxed do death, more power to you. I'm on a fixed income and the never ending property tax increases are overwhelming me. My income stays the same but the cost of living in Chicago keeps increasing with no end in sight. If you want a reality check and you have some time on your hands, take a ride up to Michigan and see the teachers sitting on the beach retired at 55 with second homes. That should wake you up. Then again, maybe it won't. Some people don't want to see the truth.

Where, pray tell, do you plan to move that ISN'T corrupt? Michigan? LOL. Don't drink the water!

[Manterro]

Originally Posted by lepoisson

But we know that will never happen. Chicago and Illinois have and will always be run by corrupt democrats. The ship could be sinking, but the same people will vote for the same politicians over and over. Getting the idiots to vote for anyone else would be like asking Trump voters to vote Hillary. It ain't gonna happen.

At this point, the best thing to do is just to get the heck out of dodge.

I've already lost $75/mo because of the new income tax rate. When property tax rates increase, my rent will likely increase, meaning my money won't go as far.

If you want to reduce the corruption in Chicago, focus on the organizations and people at the top. Rahm, the Chicago Teachers Union and Karen Lewis are some very big problems. Rahm panders to CTU because he's afraid of fat Karen supporting somebody other than him.
If the CTU teachers paid their full mandated 9.4 % contribution toward their obscene pensions, it would result in $175 million per year and there would be no need to raise property taxes. The police pay their full share. The firefighters pay their full share. There's nothing special about the lazy teachers that should exempt them from paying the full amount.

[HomeIsWhere...]

Originally Posted by Manterro

If you want to reduce the corruption in Chicago, focus on the organizations and people at the top. Rahm, the Chicago Teachers Union and Karen Lewis are some very big problems. Rahm panders to CTU because he's afraid of fat Karen supporting somebody other than him.
If the CTU teachers paid their full mandated 9.4 % contribution toward their obscene pensions, it would result in $175 million per year and there would be no need to raise property taxes. The police pay their full share. The firefighters pay their full share. There's nothing special about the lazy teachers that should exempt them from paying the full amount.

Corruption in Chicago?

Little-noticed pension perk for teachers widespread in Illinois

Thousands of educators across the state get a better deal than CPS teachers — their districts have been paying the full amount of teachers' contributions to TRS, the largest state pension system and among the worst funded in the nation.

To give the perk, districts use a formula that essentially adds money on top of regular teacher salaries to cover all or part of teacher pension contributions, then takes that money out to pay TRS. The perk can apply to administrators and staff as well.

Little-noticed pension perk for teachers widespread in Illinois - Chicago Tribune

[Fta23457]

Originally Posted by MarianRavenwood

Where, pray tell, do you plan to move that ISN'T corrupt? Michigan? LOL. Don't drink the water!

Chicago's corruption is on a whole other level.
The "other cities and states are corrupt" logic is flawed and nothing more than a silly strawman.

[coldwine]

Originally Posted by Manterro

All you people that love Chicago can have fun paying for CTU teachers to retire at age 55 so they can take home over $2 million in total pension benefits compliments of Daley, Rahm and Karen Lewis. Meanwhile you'll be eating cat food if you're lucky enough to reach 68 and unlucky enough to not be able to scrimp and save for your retirement. Teachers are better than you. You work for them.

When you reach adulthood, you will understand. It isn't fun, sacrifices must be made, and no matter what you achieve you never really win.

Move to Houston. I hear it's the 4th largest city; going to overtake Chicago any day now.

[WizardOfRadical]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

CA stabilized because of massive tax increases.

Yup. Mainly on the rich. And the economy and real estate is booming in CA.

America would be saved if we had Jerry Brown in the white house instead of Agent Orange Buffoon

[AzScorpion12]

Originally Posted by coldwine

When you reach adulthood, you will understand. It isn't fun, sacrifices must be made, and no matter what you achieve you never really win.

Move to Houston. I hear it's the 4th largest city; going to overtake Chicago any day now.

Hahaha...you seriously believe that? You've been brainwashed into opening your checkbook again and again to pay for all these liberals mistakes!

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Yup. Mainly on the rich. And the economy and real estate is booming in CA.

America would be saved if we had Jerry Brown in the white house instead of Agent Orange Buffoon

Yea,keep clicking your heels together while telling yourself that and it may actually come true!

It's not mainly the rich is everyone. I have many customers from both IL and CA and one of the main reason they left are because of the politics and high taxes and they're far from upper class rich!

That's the last thing we need is Moonbeam Brown anywhere near the WH! I can see it now,open borders for everyone and higher taxes all around! No thanks, keep you wacko gov right where he is. Hopefully Trump can continue the wall straight up the border from MX though CA!

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Yup. Mainly on the rich. And the economy and real estate is booming in CA.

America would be saved if we had Jerry Brown in the white house instead of Agent Orange Buffoon

I agree.

[DavePa]

Originally Posted by Fta23457

Chicago's corruption is on a whole other level.
The "other cities and states are corrupt" logic is flawed and nothing more than a silly strawman.

Corruption in NYC, where does it end?

Congratulations, New York, You’re #1 in Corruption - POLITICO Magazine

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5 Points On How New York State Got So Damn Corrupt – Talking Points Memo

[lepoisson]

Originally Posted by Fta23457

Chicago's corruption is on a whole other level.
The "other cities and states are corrupt" logic is flawed and nothing more than a silly strawman.

There is corruption everywhere, even those small podunk towns have corruption. The sheriff is the husband of the mayor, whose son runs the jail.

But you're right, corrupt politics seem to dominate the entire state of Illinois and the city of Chicago. Literally with everything that involves the exchanging of money, someone has their hand in the pot somewhere. Street construction is half-azzed so that the corrupt company has to come back out next year instead of in 5 years.

I've lived in several states, cities, and towns. It's weird, but you can feel the corruption in Chicago.