Official Chicago Neighborhood Thread (Lincoln, Lakewood: living in, design, suburbs)

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yeah, I was amused to see the realtor map that extends Andersonville east all the way to the lake. Errm..... not quite.

That said, I have noticed the generally accepted definition of Andersonville has grown. When I lived there it was pretty strictly Foster to the south, Bryn Mawr to the north, Glenwood (or maybe Wayne) to the east and Ravenswood to the west. Some institutions like Hop Leaf and the Neo-Futurarium were honorary Andersonville institutions back then even though they are technically south of Foster. But as the tarting-up of Clark Street expands further in each direction, the self-identification of Andersonville has spread along with it.

When I was young, Andersonville did not go west of Ashland or north of Catalpa.

[guaterico]

Perhaps this is getting off topic, but how then do we define what is and is not a neighborhood?

For example, I used to work in the West Loop and that clearly seems to be moving further and further west every year, to the point where the United Center is West Loop, or West Loop West.

And looking at the official city map, where do they come up with some of these names? Heart of Chicago? Pill Hill? Chrysler Village?

[obsurd]

ha thanks for all the help guys i really appreciate it.

[skyeINIL]

Originally Posted by guaterico

Perhaps this is getting off topic, but how then do we define what is and is not a neighborhood?

For example, I used to work in the West Loop and that clearly seems to be moving further and further west every year, to the point where the United Center is West Loop, or West Loop West.

And looking at the official city map, where do they come up with some of these names? Heart of Chicago? Pill Hill? Chrysler Village?

I don't know about the rest, but Pill Hill is an actual "neighborhood" on the southeast side. I don't know the real origin, but I used to believe that since the homes there are worth a lot more than the ones in the surrounding area and are owned by upper class blacks, that they wanted to distinguish themselves as different, or perhaps, "better". Just a silly teenager's reasoning, I guess.

[neonwattagelimit]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yeah, I was amused to see the realtor map that extends Andersonville east all the way to the lake. Errm..... not quite.

That said, I have noticed the generally accepted definition of Andersonville has grown. When I lived there it was pretty strictly Foster to the south, Bryn Mawr to the north, Glenwood (or maybe Wayne) to the east and Ravenswood to the west. Some institutions like Hop Leaf and the Neo-Futurarium were honorary Andersonville institutions back then even though they are technically south of Foster. But as the tarting-up of Clark Street expands further in each direction, the self-identification of Andersonville has spread along with it.

Going by that definition, the map I was referring to is actually not so bad. It basically said Andersonville went a couple blocks south of Foster, a couple blocks north of Bryn Mawr, and east to Magnolia. Essentially, it added the area housing those "honorary" Andersonville institutions, and also swallowed up old Lakewood Balmoral, which is phrase I've only seen on some signs in the neighborhood. If somebody wanted to make the claim that Andersonville extends all the way to Broadway, I wouldn't argue that, neighborhood boundaries are fluid and development patters in that area are not noticeably different from what's technically Andersonville. The lake, though....that's just nuts.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by guaterico

Perhaps this is getting off topic, but how then do we define what is and is not a neighborhood?

For example, I used to work in the West Loop and that clearly seems to be moving further and further west every year, to the point where the United Center is West Loop, or West Loop West.

And looking at the official city map, where do they come up with some of these names? Heart of Chicago? Pill Hill? Chrysler Village?

Chrysler Village-The area was constructed during WW2 to provide housing for the workers at the Chrysler Defense plant (in the area that is now the Ford City Mall) that made engines for B-52s.

W. Loop should never be anthing west of Halsted (at most.) I consider W. Loop to be east of 90/94 only.

[oakparkdude]

Pill Hill was named after all the doctors who lived there.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by neonwattagelimit

Going by that definition, the map I was referring to is actually not so bad. It basically said Andersonville went a couple blocks south of Foster, a couple blocks north of Bryn Mawr, and east to Magnolia. Essentially, it added the area housing those "honorary" Andersonville institutions, and also swallowed up old Lakewood Balmoral, which is phrase I've only seen on some signs in the neighborhood. If somebody wanted to make the claim that Andersonville extends all the way to Broadway, I wouldn't argue that, neighborhood boundaries are fluid and development patters in that area are not noticeably different from what's technically Andersonville. The lake, though....that's just nuts.

There's definitely a east/west split in Edgewater at Broadway. But I still think Lakewood-Balmoral deserves it's own designation as a neighborhood separate from Andersonville. Or is that just the name of the Historical and/or Landmark District?

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Chrysler Village-The area was constructed during WW2 to provide housing for the workers at the Chrysler Defense plant (in the area that is now the Ford City Mall) that made engines for B-52s.

W. Loop should never be anthing west of Halsted (at most.) I consider W. Loop to be east of 90/94 only.

Avengerfire, was it you who was saying that there is still a lot of radioactivity in that area from a buried reactor? I swear I heard that somewhere...

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

Avengerfire, was it you who was saying that there is still a lot of radioactivity in that area from a buried reactor? I swear I heard that somewhere...

The buried reactor is in the south burbs in what is now a forest preserve of all places.