Todays King of the Hills Episode - Gentrification

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by JCL01

First, I don't care where you were born and raised. It doesn't entitle you to anything with regard to Chicago or otherwise.

Second, you can say whatever you want about Kentucky or in the Kentucky forum. Welcome to America.

Third, I think the term "overgeneralizing" might apply to one who assumes what a stranger does and does not know.

Finally, I note that your m.o. seems to be to avoid any actual discussion of the issues raised and to just attack attack attack anyone who disagrees with you. If it's really as simple as you seem to think, then please share your reasoning and quit worrying about extraneous stuff.

Dont worry, I have read your work in the other forums. I know what you are about.

[sukwoo]

Originally Posted by JCL01

I see that point of view.

I think it might be good, first, though to define exactly what is meant by "negative effects" specifically...

First in my mind would be that the poor lose out...but, this isn't really particular to this issue. The poor always lose out.

The other would be that certain people's aesthetic sense (or however you would like to label it) is offended. As I've stated, I'm not particularly sympathetic to the idea that this is really a particularly negative effect.

What are the other negative effects you would add?

I couldn't care less about the aesthetics of gentrification. I'm probably best classified as a yuppie, and I like Starbucks too. I'm a big believer in capitalism, and also a big believer that no one is entitled to a neighborhood.

That being said, its a little to easy to say that the poor always lose out (so no big deal). Why do the poor lose out? Partly (not entirely), its because the playing field is unnecessarily stacked against them. I'm not talking about the drug dealers and gangbangers (Screw 'em). I'm talking about the law-abiding poor, the ones who play by the rules.

Granted, as you say, this is not specific to gentrification and more of an issue for the Politics & other controversies forum, so I'll stop.

[fine_where_I_am]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

So comming from somewhere outside the city, contributing to a market of artificial priced rents/home-values,

Kind of like the "artificially" priced real estate in Englewood? How about the endless amount of vacant lots on the south side within 10 miles of the loop? Please tell me what is 'artificial' and what isn't. Neighborhoods that are gentrifying are gentrifying because of their geographical location - which is about as natural and common of a reason for high real estate values as you can get, throughout human history.

[jessiegirl_98]

Please just remember to keep this thread on topic and to not go about with personal attacks!!

[jessiegirl_98]

Enough with the personal attacks! This thread is closed