Midwestern Cities (Chicago, Pittsburg, Ohio: schools, living in, metro area)

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by Katiana

I've been Katiana for quite a while now. I was trying to avoid a troll. Also wanted to get away from the nurse thing, as I got a lot of requests for infor about jobs. I've only had two names, BTW.

Really? I thought youve had more? Anyways, hello.

[jessiegirl_98]

Let's see what Wikepedia says

Midwestern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They agree with me! All here but Pittsburg and Buffalo! They even have a nice map.

[andrew61]

I'd say Chicago, Cleveland, Omaha, and Detroit. Definitely not Pittsburgh or Buffalo.

As a native Clevelander, I count Cleveland in the Midwest, but just barely. There's definitely an Eastern influence in Cleveland that's missing from the Midwestern cities further west. The town was, after all, founded by people from Connecticut.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by jm31828

Actually, according to most who live around here, the Midwest is North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri (some question on all of Missouri), Wisconsin, Illinois. The rest to the east of there would be more considered the Great Lakes Region, though I know folks on the east coast refer to that area as the Midwest. So that definitely includes Omaha (Omaha is right in the heart of it) as well as Chicago, but definitely not Pittsburgh.

What do you mean, "according to most who live around here"? I think in order to make a statement like that you need to survey more than just a handful of people you know. Give statistics from research or else it's just your opinion.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by jessiegirl_98

Let's see what Wikepedia says

Midwestern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They agree with me! All here but Pittsburg and Buffalo! They even have a nice map.

I'm with jessigirl_98 and the U.S. Census on this one. But if you look at the Wikipedia article, there is another map showing contested midwest status, and all of the "plains states" are included in that category.

[Libertine]

I don't really like the Wikipedia link because (outside of the Midwest) they have California in the same category with California (West Coast) and Texas in the same category as Georgia (the South). I think a more modern map would include the following categories:

New England (Maine-RI)
The East Coast (NY/Conn-Maryland)
The Southeast (Virginia-Georgia, maybe Florida)
The South (AL, MS, LA, AR, TN, KY, etc.)
The Midwest (MI, OH, IN, IL, IO, MO, MN, WI)
Plains (Dakotas, NE, KS, OK)
Southwest (TX, NM, AZ)
Mountain States (CO, WY, MT, UT, ID, NV)
The West Coast (CA, OR, WA, AK, HI).

Thoughts?

[chet everett]

Looks good, but where is Penn?

IO = Iowooo?

[Drover]

Well, having actually lived in Pittsburgh, I can vouch that a lot of its history and traditions are similar to those of the Midwest... but it has other influences that set it apart from Midwest cities.

Its layout and architecture are distinctly tied to the East coast, as is a lot of its history (been an actual town of some sort -- not just a fort in the woods -- since the mid 1700s, which no Midwest city can really claim) not to mention it's smack dab in the middle of Appalachia.

When it comes down to it, no other city of its scale has this overlapping combination of Midwest/Appalachian/East Coast influence. (Cincinnati comes close but doesn't have enough of an east coast tie-in.) Pittsburgh is a cultural oddity, truly one of a kind.

[MassVt]

...Buffalo and Pittsburgh are Eastern cities, although they have much in common with the industrial Midwest (Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.).

Definitions of the Midwest can vary widely; some will include Missouri and the Plains states, some will not. I guess I would classify Cincinnati and St. Louis as "midwestern cities", but they are very close to the edge.

[neonwattagelimit]

If you'd have asked me a year ago, before I moved to Chicago and before I saw these kinds of threads on C-D (I participated in another one, and got a bit too complicated for my own good) I would've argued 'till I was blue in the face that Buffalo and Pittsburgh are the Midwest, more or less. Now that I see people from those cities and people from the Midwest usually disagree with that notion, I'm willing to say they aren't.

But Cleveland? Seriously? C'mon....Cleveland is the Midwest. It sure as hell isn't the East, I can tell you that.

Omaha is a tricky one. I'd say it's definitely Great Plains, but the real question is whether you consider the Plains an independent region or a subregion of the Midwest.