Why does the Brown Line stop west at Kimball? (Avon: utilities, versus)

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by CarolinaBredChicagoan

There are a million things we wish would happen with the CTA. A few years ago, someone made this: Gapers Block: Detour - A CTA Map for 2055

It's a CTA map for 2055, and it's all pretty interesting. Maybe if fuel cost continue to climb and the city grows in population and revenue, it'll happen.

2055? I doubt I'll be around by then.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by andrew61

2055? I doubt I'll be around by then.

Not to mention that plan would cost like a 500 billion dollars in todays money!

Check out this article written in 1892. Scroll down for Chicago.

"Rapid Transit in Cities" (1892)

Notice the early (but vague map of Chicago and some of the then burbs as well as some of the neighborhoods/smaller towns of those towns/townships like Ravenswood and Andersonville in Lake View)

My god! It lists an Andersonville stop on the tracks of the now Metra line. (The stop appears to be around Foster.) Also a stop called Henrytown (which appears to be around Peterson.) So my suggestion of adding stops to the Metra up there is not too far flung is it?

You can also see the predecessor to the Red Line on there and some of the old cable car routes. Very cool.
http://images.nycsubway.org/articles...it-mapchic.png

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Johnny Northside

A long time ago, the CTA had ambitious plans such as this. The 1939 subway extension plan included a line under Belmont Avenue all the way to Oak Park Avenue. Another line west from Humboldt Park (an actual spur of what's now the Blue Line) to North and Central. A southward extension of the Brown Line along Wood and Ashland, meeting the Blue Line at Division. A map of these plans are available at the same website referenced in the Gapers Block article: http://www.chicago-l.org/plans/images/1939subways.jpg

Within 10-15 years, the CTA was instead rolling back its rapid transit lines from places like Westchester.

The old Humboldt Park elevated. Stopped use in 1952. 1895-1952.Chicago ''L''.org: Operations - Lines -> Humboldt Park

Is it not funny how the CTA wants to now rebuild lines and track stretches that once existed and were torn town? What fricken morons.The CTA has been run like crap since it was created.

Chicago ''L''.org: Operations - Lines -> Paulina Connector

Chicago ''L''.org: Operations - Lines -> Westchester branch

[APPLEI]

Originally Posted by CarolinaBredChicagoan

There are a million things we wish would happen with the CTA. A few years ago, someone made this: Gapers Block: Detour - A CTA Map for 2055

It's a CTA map for 2055, and it's all pretty interesting. Maybe if fuel cost continue to climb and the city grows in population and revenue, it'll happen.

the CTA map for 2055 looks amazing
but what about these neighborhoods

East Side
Riverdale
Hegewisch
Mount Greenwood
Portage Park
Montclare
Hermosa
Belmont Central
Craigin
Belmont Heights
Irving Wood
Schorsch Forest View

Anybody else feel free to add to this list

[CarolinaBredChicagoan]

Originally Posted by APPLEI

the CTA map for 2055 looks amazing
but what about these neighborhoods

East Side
Riverdale
Hegewisch
Mount Greenwood
Portage Park
Montclare
Hermosa
Belmont Central
Craigin
Belmont Heights
Irving Wood
Schorsch Forest View

Anybody else feel free to add to this list

Well, with no disrespect to those neighborhoods... what about em? The map isn't perfect or comprehensive. It's just an idea about how to extend the existing infrastructure to serve more areas and provide a transportation system that understands that not every rail customer is concerned with coming and going to and from the Loop.

It'd be a step in the right direction.

Besides, it's one of many neat ideas about how to improve the city. Like this one: Chicago Reader | Our Town: Close Deep Tunnel -- The architects at Bridgeport's UrbanLab have a better plan. By Harold Henderson

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by CarolinaBredChicagoan

Well, with no disrespect to those neighborhoods... what about em? The map isn't perfect or comprehensive. It's just an idea about how to extend the existing infrastructure to serve more areas and provide a transportation system that understands that not every rail customer is concerned with coming and going to and from the Loop.

It'd be a step in the right direction.

Besides, it's one of many neat ideas about how to improve the city. Like this one: Chicago Reader | Our Town: Close Deep Tunnel -- The architects at Bridgeport's UrbanLab have a better plan. By Harold Henderson

It is a great idea but the main problem is there is not enough space in the Deep Tunnel passages to berth two sets of track and platforms for a subway.

Not to mention the tunnels are up to 300 feet underground.

I have no clue how nobody noticed that when reviewing this plan.

[APPLEI]

Originally Posted by CarolinaBredChicagoan

There are a million things we wish would happen with the CTA. A few years ago, someone made this: Gapers Block: Detour - A CTA Map for 2055

It's a CTA map for 2055, and it's all pretty interesting. Maybe if fuel cost continue to climb and the city grows in population and revenue, it'll happen.

if Chicago gets the Olympics in 2016 i wouldn't be surprised if the Circle Line was built quickly and along with some of the great ideas on the Gapers Block: Detour - A CTA Map for 2015

[nJohn]

Bump this for hope sakes.

[Mr Downtown]

The Ravenswood Line was built (by a private company) so developers could sell lots in Ravenswood Manor. Why would any of those people ever want to go to some place way out in Leyden Township?

[matrix2004]

I thought i heard that because of the soft soil in the area, that you can't make a subway on the North side?