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05-26-2008, 04:01 PM
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There's beauty in the solace of not giving a damn.
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Originally Posted by spedteacher1
are you serious? i have live in southshore for 3 years (on southshore dr) and nothing or nobody has ever bothered me. this is one of the main reasons that i choose to stay here. to me, everyone here apprears to be friendly and they mind their own business. you people act as if an area has a certain "racial" make-up you all assume that it is a bad place to live. unless you live/are from southshore you shouldn't have anything smart to say about it.
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Gee, defensive much?
Not too long ago I compiled the crime stats for South Shore (back before Everyblock made it easier to do it by neighborhood) and this is what I came up with using data from between June 6 2006 through June 5 2007:
- 16 murders (26 per 100,000, 62% higher than the city average)
- 508 robberies (825 per 100,000, 48% higher than the city average)
- 625 non-domestic assaults (1,015 per 100,000, 66% higher than the city average for all assault types)
- 34 sex offenses in South Shore (55 per 100,000, slightly above the city average)
So yeah, unless the neighborhood has done a miraculous turnaround in the last year, there's an awful lot of stuff stuff going on down there. Glad to hear nobody has bothered you, but a highly disproportianate number of your neighbors can't say the same.
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05-27-2008, 11:12 AM
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Drover
Drover,
What are you top 5 worst neighborhoods?
You seem to have a lot of knowledge of Chicago neighborhoods based upon your past posts.
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05-27-2008, 01:51 PM
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Some of these communities are very large. There are nice areas within some of them. Statistics of the crimes are just based on the entire communtiy alone.
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05-27-2008, 03:05 PM
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There's beauty in the solace of not giving a damn.
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Originally Posted by Humboldt1
Drover,
What are you top 5 worst neighborhoods?
You seem to have a lot of knowledge of Chicago neighborhoods based upon your past posts.
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I don't really have a "top five" because, while I'm not quite as emphatic about it, I'm pretty much with Maginault on this. We all have a pretty good idea where the good parts and the not-so-good parts of town are, and I don't see a lot of value of singling out five for particular scrutiny. Doing so is not necessary to the discussion of what, if anything, can be done about the places that are candidates for any such list.
Last edited by Drover; 05-27-2008 at 03:30 PM..
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05-27-2008, 03:29 PM
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what, if anything, can be done about the places that are candidates for any such list.?
Mentoring, education, opportunity. Kids aren't born "bad", they become that way through deseration. . . . .
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05-27-2008, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt1
The Englewood threat got me thinking what are the top 5 worst neighborhoods in Chicago?
Here are mine:
1.) Englewood
2.) West Garfield Park
3.) North Lawndale
4.) Back of the Yards
5.) Austin
I am curious to see what neighborhoods others list.
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Chicago crime data (formerly chicagocrime.org) | EveryBlock Chicago
Top Ten Neigborhoods for crime in the past 30 days are
1.) Englewood 2287 total crimes
2.) Austin 2226
3.) Lawndale 1674
4.) Gresham 1641
5.) South Shore 1374
6.) Logan Square 1181
7.) Pilsen- Little Village 995
8.) Humboldt Park 976
9.) South Chicago 942
10.) Back of the Yards 925
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05-27-2008, 05:41 PM
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We who are about to snark, salute you!
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Originally Posted by noid_1985
Chicago crime data (formerly chicagocrime.org) | EveryBlock Chicago
Top Ten Neigborhoods for crime in the past 30 days are
1.) Englewood 2287 total crimes
2.) Austin 2226
3.) Lawndale 1674
4.) Gresham 1641
5.) South Shore 1374
6.) Logan Square 1181
7.) Pilsen- Little Village 995
8.) Humboldt Park 976
9.) South Chicago 942
10.) Back of the Yards 925
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If you're going to do this kind of ranking in any rigorous sort of way, you really have to do it on a per capita basis, to take in account the huge variation in population size of neighborhoods.
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05-27-2008, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sukwoo
If you're going to do this kind of ranking in any rigorous sort of way, you really have to do it on a per capita basis, to take in account the huge variation in population size of neighborhoods.
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It's not me doing the ranking Sukwoo, it's the website, but just for kicks I was going to throw in the populations of each neighborhood but I had some other things to do first
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05-27-2008, 11:28 PM
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sukwoo is right, need per capita
You need per capita as garfield park didn't even make your list. Humboldt Park has 65K people vs 20K for West Garfield Park. Population matters.
Interesting that Logan has more reported crime than Humboldt. This was surprising to me though there is some rough stuff in west logan. I think this also may be fueled by higher thefts and car breakins as there is simply better stuff to steal in logan than humboldt (and I live in humboldt and call it the way it is).
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05-28-2008, 04:03 AM
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[quote=Humboldt1;3903950]You need per capita as garfield park didn't even make your list. Humboldt Park has 65K people vs 20K for West Garfield Park. Population matters.
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Again this isn't my ranking, and yes population does matter. East and West Garfield Park had roughly 1600 crimes combined, with East Garfield Park having the higher of the two. Both of these neighborhoods have 20k residents. Sorry Humboldt1 your beloved Humboldt Park still may have made the list because West Humboldt Park (according to EverblockChicago.com) had 430+ crimes that weren't combined with Humboldt Park.
Enough about "bad" neighborhoods though, when people think about Chicago being "bad" on a national level they don't single out a particular neighborhood, they think of Chicago as a whole, so rather you live in Humboldt Park or Hyde Park we as a city have to come together to stop the violence. I think it's almost selfish for people to think that because they live in a "better" section of the city, what happens in Englewood or North Lawndale doesn't effect them.
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