09-16-2009, 12:05 AM
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The Pack used to play a game or two in Milwaukee every year but that ended in 90s. Now County Stadium's gone and Lambeau has been expanded.
09-16-2009, 07:59 AM
Location: San Leandro
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It was common to have NFL teams in relatively small-market cities when league first formed. Some moved to different markets (the Bears of course started out as the Decatur Staleys), most others folded. But the Packers stayed put in Green Bay. So far there has never been a business case for moving the team. They've sold out every game since the mid-60s so they might as well stay put.
That is fascinating, you have to tip your hat off to a fan base like that no matter how sad the colors.
09-16-2009, 11:41 AM
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^They are one of the few fan groups in sports that are more obsessed with their teams number one rival than their own team (see also Chicago White Sox fans.)^
Not true at all. The level of Packer obssession in much of Wisconsin borders on religious fanaticism, and most people have cared more about the Minnesota Vikings more than the Bears for the last decade or so (and the Favre thing will only add fuel to this fire). The closest thing I've seen to Packer fandom anywhere else is Cubs fandom.
Now
I care more about the rivalry with the Bears because I've lived in Chicago for many years, and enjoy the trash talking at work and among friends. And I've always been able to find plenty of other Packer fans in Chicago to enjoy the games with. What good is a rivalry without a little back and forth?
09-16-2009, 12:23 PM
Location: Nort Seid
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speaking of the Bears:New Soldier Field stop on Green Line? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Transportation (http://www.suntimes.com/news/transportation/1773261,CST-NWS-rta16.article - broken link)
09-16-2009, 02:46 PM
Location: Chicago
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Not true at all. The level of Packer obssession in much of Wisconsin borders on religious fanaticism, and most people have cared more about the Minnesota Vikings more than the Bears for the last decade or so (and the Favre thing will only add fuel to this fire). The closest thing I've seen to Packer fandom anywhere else is Cubs fandom.I care more about the rivalry with the Bears because I've lived in Chicago for many years, and enjoy the trash talking at work and among friends. And I've always been able to find plenty of other Packer fans in Chicago to enjoy the games with. What good is a rivalry without a little back and forth?
I'd make a wager that if you compare the ratio of Avengerfire's Cubs to Sox/Sox fan remarks, they'd be higher than the reverse of any Sox fan on here.
Anyway, Packer fans didn't realize that Jay Cutler was playing chess, not checkers. Get em all excited about their defense early in the season, then WOPZAAM!, pull the chair from under them, throw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns.
Mod Cut
There is no defense for Urlacher
Mod Cut
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09-16-2009, 02:58 PM
Location: Chicago
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speaking of the Bears:New Soldier Field stop on Green Line? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Transportation (http://www.suntimes.com/news/transportation/1773261,CST-NWS-rta16.article - broken link)
Another great example of the genius planning of the CTA.
The Bears started playing at Soldier Field in 1971.
"The Green Line's Cermak L station was torn down in 1978, a year after being shut to save money."
New Soldier Field stop on Green Line? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Transportation (http://www.suntimes.com/news/transportation/1773261,CST-NWS-rta16.article - broken link)
09-16-2009, 05:39 PM
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Which one is the Green Line anyway, the Jackson Park?
09-16-2009, 07:26 PM
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^ Yes, combined with the Lake Street. ^
09-16-2009, 09:17 PM
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Anyway, Packer fans didn't realize that Jay Cutler was playing chess, not checkers. Get em all excited about their defense early in the season, then WOPZAAM!, pull the chair from under them, throw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns, Mod Cut Mod Cut
Interesting strategy. I'm just glad the cameras didn't catch any of this Urlacher action. The image makes me shudder.
I'm just happy the Packers got a win off the Bears this year. I thought the Bears would be the team to beat in the NFC North, so avoiding a sweep is good enough for me. Now I think the Vikings look darn scary, but one game isn't really enough to tell us anything about any of these teams.
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09-16-2009, 10:30 PM
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Now I think the Vikings look darn scary, but one game isn't really enough to tell us anything about any of these teams.
Adrian Peterson is the only one that scares me, and I think the 3-4 might be better suited to containing the outside run.
AP's getting his yards and is probably good for a couple touchdowns, so it's just a matter of whether Rodgers and the offense puts together a good game. I'm not ready to hand the division to the Vikings for waiting until the second half to pull away from the likes of Cleveland.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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