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11-23-2008, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramo Nash
Hehe, but, seriously, people categorized as "hipsters" also support underground music, non-chain cafes and restaurants, local stores. How's that a negative, even if it were bred out of hatred of mainstream culture?
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The Southport corridor is almost totally non-chain and local. The quality of the restaurants there are up to Europe's standards. I think Mazdamike was poking fun at the Palmer Sq. types who think living near 3 taquerias run by people illiterate in even Spanish is somehow "culture".
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I still don't understand why an aversion to or even a hatred of mainstream culture (whether well thought out or part of the style) is a bad thing, which was what I was saying.
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Well, considering the PC mentality is the mainstream today in Chicago, and the USA (with obamanation) then aversion and hatred against all of that is "not a bad thing". That's what you are saying. Revolution against our new regime is not a bad thing as long as it's thought out. I agree that we need freedom here.
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11-23-2008, 09:22 PM
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Because they make them "hip" and "cool." Then the Yuppies want to see how hip and cool these places are.
Then isn't it the yuppies fault for co-opting these areas and moving into their "loftstyle" condos and encouraging certain kinds of amenities over others? I agree with the idea that "hipsters" come first, then waves of gentrification, but what people term "hipsters" not only have, in many cases, supported and created good places, but they flee the gentrification too, so how can you blame them?
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Because hipsters (as well as many yuppies) are by and large trendy people. They claim to "discover" places that have been around for decades and then they create a trend. They destroy credibility of the trend once they find something else to pimp out and exploit. When the yuppies move in the hipsters can blame the yuppies for ruining what was once "hip" and wash their hands like Pontius Pilot.
Hipsters do not come first in areas that become gentrified. Working class folks as well as non-privileged students and struggling REAL artists/musicians come before hipsters. Believe me,I am all three of these. Every area I have lived in as an adult has been ruined by the hipsters after folks like me live in them.
Hipsters have never made any "cool" places. The places that they actually create instead of something they "discovered" suck ass and nobody thinks they are cool but fellow hipsters, yuppies, and people from Iowa or (insert your lame mid-west state here.)
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12-03-2008, 12:16 PM
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What in the world are you babbling about?
Whoever it was that said Palmer's residents are near 3 Taqueirias, you should "Taqueria" a hint and visit the neighborhood before you blog about it. In order of distance, there is exactly one taqueria in the 6 closest restaurants to Palmer Square.
StreetSide
Pancho's Bar
Bar Logan (exact same thing as Northside Bar)
Lula's
Dunlay's
California Taqueria
Cozy Corner Cafe
As we move on beyond this list we begin to talk about restaurants that are over half a mile by drive from the actual Palmer Square, which I consider entering into Logan Square general area. I should mention that there is also a Miso's Italian Ice in there, I didn't because it's closed for Winter.
Don't hate. Congratulate.
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12-03-2008, 12:50 PM
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I agree with the point of the above post - one other restaurants in the Palmer Sq. neighborhood is Bonsoiree - which is just awesome, and about as far from being a taqueria as you can get.
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12-03-2008, 12:57 PM
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I agree with the point of the above post - one other restaurants in the Palmer Sq. neighborhood is Bonsoiree - which is just awesome, and about as far from being a taqueria as you can get.
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Cool -- looks like a place I might like (as a liberal elite yuppie). Do you recommend?
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12-03-2008, 01:17 PM
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I definitely recommend it. They do 5 course meals for $65 on weekends that are great. You can sign up on their website to get emails of what the next weekends menu will be. I prefer their meat dishes to the seafood ones and usually go on weekends when the main course is meat.
Before it was Bonsoiree the space housed Savoy Truffle - which was excellent as well.
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12-03-2008, 04:51 PM
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Bonsoiree seems like it's been slammed since it was on Check, Please! My NYE plans had to be altered.
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12-06-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mamama Mia
Agreed. As a mom of kids in their 20's, I am able to sleep better knowing they were in Bucktown and the Southport Corridor...call me crazy.
I know a few hipsters who lived in Logan Square until they were affected by violence. It's funny how quickly they are able to run to a predominately white western suburb. 
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Yeah these hispters claim they hate white people or anything that is in the white majority, yet they don't realize that they act more white than any other white person in the city (including yuppies IMO), with their organic food stores, coffee shops and bad acoustic guitar playing. They think they (and their "culture") will be welcome into latino and black neighborhoods with open arms just cause they openly "hate lincoln park and lakeview", but when they find out thats not the case at all, they flock in the opposite direction. Buncha fake a-$-$ lames, good riddence.
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12-06-2008, 09:34 PM
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does palmer sq have any hispanic people living there or is it all yuppies and "hipsters"
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12-06-2008, 09:36 PM
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... with their organic food stores, coffee shops and bad acoustic guitar playing...
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Even if I do not agree with much of what you say much of the time, I do have to agree on the "bad acoustic guitar playing" part for sure.
Also cue the lame Guitar Hero playing hipsters. 
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