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Old 08-08-2008, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Old 08-10-2008, 02:13 AM
 
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Okay, I'm all for actual sustainability, but I honestly sometimes think that this eco-trend will do more to harm real progress than not. Trends are just that, trends, what happens when 'green' is no longer 'cool'? Will there be a backlash?
Wake up. "Green" is just a marketing ploy. Every greedy person in business is behind a "green" movement for their advertising. Green condos? BP and Exxon are green? Green HVAC companies? don't be fooled.

If you see "green" advertised, you can be sure it's just a capitalist using the term because they want to capitalize on the current trend.

When "green" is done, it will be forgotten, and world will move onto the next thing they can market to the masses.

A "green" tavern has to be the most ridiculous marketing ploy that I have ever heard of....they don't flush their urinals for drunks into the sanitary sewer system? yeah right.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:30 AM
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UH, that is what I said in my post. Did you not read it? Or did you just read the word 'sustainable' in my post, stop reading there, and post your necessary 'wake-up' diatribe. I've been well aware of this for awhile.

I know more than a few architects and designers who are complaining about just that because they are actually committed to the idea, and have been before 'green' was even a word used to describe what they were doing. They are all concerned that this particular trend is doing more harm to responsible and sustainable living in the long run than helping them out as the inevitable backlash or dilution of the ideal by corporate interests will essentially suck the life right out of the damn thing.
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:56 PM
 
Location: St. Augustine
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Wake up. "Green" is just a marketing ploy. Every greedy person in business is behind a "green" movement for their advertising. Green condos? BP and Exxon are green? Green HVAC companies? don't be fooled.

If you see "green" advertised, you can be sure it's just a capitalist using the term because they want to capitalize on the current trend.
You hit the nail. Nothing appeals to the bourgeois better than the notion that they can display virtue by buying something.
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Old 08-10-2008, 02:35 PM
 
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You hit the nail. Nothing appeals to the bourgeois better than the notion that they can display virtue by buying something.
You sound like David Brooks. But you're right.

But if you have to buy something anyway, it doesn't hurt to go the 'sustainable' route.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:10 PM
 
Location: St. Augustine
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You sound like David Brooks. But you're right.


I don't know who this Brooks guy is but he probably sounds like me.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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Has anyone been to one of these eco-friendly bars?
Mike Royko must be turning over in his grave.
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