Segregation in Chicago (donation, properties, areas)

[ncc]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

Yup because if anything dictates where people live it's online forums and "perception"

Again I will raise the question why is segregation bad? it's not like 1.5 million white people live north of Madison Street and 1.5 million black people live south of Madison Street. The only people who can change segregation is the people that live in segregated areas by moving and if they haven't moved then maybe they don't want to. Maybe people enjoy living next to their kind.

Nice post!

[ncc]

Originally Posted by deechee

I realize a lot about people's perception of colored people when I read these forums...

I guess this sums up why Chicago is still segregated.

*scratching head*

Well Chicago isn't just segregated by black and whites, like most other U.S cities, but rather by ethnicity (not as much as it used to be though).

[whinniethezen]

Here ya go!

Chicago is country's most segregated big city - Peoria, IL - pjstar.com

[oakparkdude]

White/Black

1. Chicago, 84.6
2. New York, 82.2
3. Atlanta, 81.5
4. Washington, 79.7
5. Cleveland, 77.3
6. Newark, 76.7
7. Philadelphia, 76.4
8. Baltimore, 71.1
9. Houston, 70.9
10. Los Angeles, 70.6

White/Latino

1. Oakland, 69.9
2. New York, 67.1
3. Los Angeles, 65.6
4. Philadelphia, 64.3
5. Long Beach, 61.1
6. Milwaukee, 60.9
7. Dallas, 60.6
8. San Diego, 60.1
9. Washington, 59.4
10. Chicago, 59.2

White/Asian

1. New Orleans, 57.9
2. Newark, 55.4
3. Long Beach, 51.7
4. Detroit, 51.0
5. St. Paul, 50.6
6. Oakland, 50.3
7. Pittsburgh, 50.1
8. New York, 49.2
9. Philadelphia, 48.6
10. Atlanta, 48.1

Other cities of note:

San Francisco: 56.1, 53.1, 40.2
Seattle: 57.3, 34.5, 45.3
Boston: 69.8, 53.3, 39.6
St. Louis: 68.4, 30.3, 40.7
Phoenix: 49.2, 57.7, 23.8

While Chicago is the most segregated vis a vis black/white, NYC and Atlanta don't have too much to cheer about either.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by sukwoo

White/Black

1. Chicago, 84.6
2. New York, 82.2
3. Atlanta, 81.5
4. Washington, 79.7
5. Cleveland, 77.3
6. Newark, 76.7
7. Philadelphia, 76.4
8. Baltimore, 71.1
9. Houston, 70.9
10. Los Angeles, 70.6

White/Latino

1. Oakland, 69.9
2. New York, 67.1
3. Los Angeles, 65.6
4. Philadelphia, 64.3
5. Long Beach, 61.1
6. Milwaukee, 60.9
7. Dallas, 60.6
8. San Diego, 60.1
9. Washington, 59.4
10. Chicago, 59.2

White/Asian

1. New Orleans, 57.9
2. Newark, 55.4
3. Long Beach, 51.7
4. Detroit, 51.0
5. St. Paul, 50.6
6. Oakland, 50.3
7. Pittsburgh, 50.1
8. New York, 49.2
9. Philadelphia, 48.6
10. Atlanta, 48.1

Other cities of note:

San Francisco: 56.1, 53.1, 40.2
Seattle: 57.3, 34.5, 45.3
Boston: 69.8, 53.3, 39.6
St. Louis: 68.4, 30.3, 40.7
Phoenix: 49.2, 57.7, 23.8

While Chicago is the most segregated vis a vis black/white, NYC and Atlanta don't have too much to cheer about either.

Yes that is what I been thinking. Chicago is the most segregated if we go by black/white segregation. Whites are more likely to integrate with Latinos and Asians before blacks. A good example is the Bridgeport neighborhood. While it have a significant amount of Chinese and Mexicans, and listed as one of the most diverse in Chicago, the neighborhood still has very few blacks.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by sukwoo

While Chicago is the most segregated vis a vis black/white, NYC and Atlanta don't have too much to cheer about either.

But... But... But they're so much hipper and more enlightened than we are! (Well, at least NYC is--Atlanta, not so much). They have a good daily newspaper! They have an Ivy League school! And cooler boutiques! And Anna Wintour!

[oakparkdude]

Actually here's another website that analyzes the same data set (2000 Census) and comes up with slightly different rankings. Note, metro areas (not cities) are analyzed (although they are using funny definitions of metro areas.)

CensusScope -- Segregation: Dissimilarity Indices

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by Chicagoland60426

Yes that is what I been thinking. Chicago is the most segregated if we go by black/white segregation. Whites are more likely to integrate with Latinos and Asians before blacks. A good example is the Bridgeport neighborhood. While it have a significant amount of Chinese and Mexicans, and listed as one of the most diverse in Chicago, the neighborhood still has very few blacks.

Given the way the ethnic makeup is changing, the important question moving forward may be who the Latinos are more likely to integrate with.

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by sukwoo

Actually here's another website that analyzes the same data set (2000 Census) and comes up with slightly different rankings. Note, metro areas (not cities) are analyzed (although they are using funny definitions of metro areas.)

CensusScope -- Segregation: Dissimilarity Indices

Interesting - I note that most of the cities near the top are both midwestern and have (or had, as the case may be) a strong industrial/blue collar workforce contingency.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

Given the way the ethnic makeup is changing, the important question moving forward may be who the Latinos are more likely to integrate with.

It might depend on the Latino nationality. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans(majority have African ancestry anyway) have a better connection with African American in particular than Mexicans. But then again you have areas like Chicago lawn/Marquette Park that is occupied by both Blacks and Mexicans. Latinos are almost everywhere in Chicagoland