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Old 10-07-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by 60-minutes-II View Post
You are not suppose to argue with strangers because this might happen. Sadly, someones parents forgot to pass down that wisdom.
Interesting how you put the blame on the parents who forgot to teach their kid not to argue with a stranger rather than on the parents who forgot to teach their kid not to be a gun-toting, murderous thug. What a bizarre set of priorities you have.
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Interesting how you put the blame on the parents who forgot to teach their kid not to argue with a stranger rather than on the parents who forgot to teach their kid not to be a gun-toting, murderous thug. What a bizarre set of priorities you have.
LOL...you are assuming that murderous thug had parents! odds are he didn't have a father in his life and his mother was leaching off the government and smoking blunts in front her kids. That's what my original post was all about. People need to start raising their kids properly with morals, ethics, and a value for education!

the problem is these so called mothers were never raised correctly themselves so they don't have the slightest clue how to raise their own. and who pays for their ignorance? innocent people, every day. and they will continue to pay for it both literally and figuratively. whether it be through taxes or whether it be through acts of crime.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Volker, Kansas City, MO
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This has nothing to do with this girl's death and has gotten far too political. Cut it out or I'm closing the thread.
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:58 PM
 
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And I'm not racist, but many black people just don't have it all together. Like in this modern age many black African nations still have slavery. And I hate the crap black hip hop / rap music that is sung by many blacks, mostly about their hos and drugs and gangsta life and etc. I really get turned off if white people like this music too. Black neighborhoods = high crime.
This is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read on this forum. Thanks for killing my faith in humanity.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:02 PM
 
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Most of the victims do have real goals for the future, that's why so many people are upset. Bottomline is she was in a bad area, with gangbangers, past 10pm. that's a no-no. she was the victim of a homicide, there are reasons for that. it's not like a random shooting in Tinley Park or something. Shootings happen all the time around 71st street. How could she have prevented it? call a friend for a ride and offer gas money. have her parents pick her up. spend the night at her Grandma's. there had to be a way to avoid her situation, we have to look back on it and learn from it.
No, wait. I think THIS killed it.
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:00 PM
 
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This thread reminds me of a recent Bill Maher rant (see link).


YouTube - Bill Maher New Rules White Prejudice

I love how this turns centuries of racism on its head.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago - Bucktown
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According to the Sun-Times she was on the way home from visiting a sick aunt. She lived at 113th & Racine. I'm assuming the aunt lives near 71st & Cottage Grove, which is pretty far from Julian. She probably didn't want to stay so she wouldn't be late to school in the morning. This is truly sad, and I do hope they catch the guy who did it.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Location Location
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Shootings happen all the time around 71st street. How could she have prevented it? call a friend for a ride and offer gas money. have her parents pick her up. spend the night at her Grandma's. there had to be a way to avoid her situation, we have to look back on it and learn from it.
You could have said she could have avoided the situation by not caring for her sick aunt. At the end of the day, however none of what happened on the bus is her fault. Like the two gentlemen that were killed by the police officer while he was driving while intoxicated- they could have stayed home or took another route instead they took the route they chose thus leaving them dead with no fault of their own. Shootings on 71st are more common than not, but one would think that if he/she were riding the CTA it would be more of a safe heaven than walking or even driving in that neighborhood. What maybe unsafe to you may have been safe to her especially since she wasn't riding alone- even in the worst neighborhoods people don't expect shootings on a bus.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I rarely ever post anything on this site; however, I feel the need to respond to the person that said that danger can always be avoided. Its like saying stay home for the rest of life and never leave! Even then, something could happen to you. I am from New York and there was one sad story not too long ago about a boy who was shot while he was looking out the window from his own apartment building from a stray bullet.

No matter where you are, whether it is in a "good" or "bad" neighborhood anything can happen to you.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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I rarely ever post anything on this site; however, I feel the need to respond to the person that said that danger can always be avoided. Its like saying stay home for the rest of life and never leave! Even then, something could happen to you. I am from New York and there was one sad story not too long ago about a boy who was shot while he was looking out the window from his own apartment building from a stray bullet.
that scenario occured on chicago's southside in June during one of chicago's most bloody summers in a long time. there was a gang war going on in the wild 100's. a full grown woman heard gun shots and went to the window to see what happened, she was then struck in the head by a stray bullet. she said the lesson learned was when you hear a loud boom like a gun shot, do NOT go to the window and look out of it. Thank the Lord that she lived!
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