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Old 11-10-2008, 09:55 AM
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I think the signature room for dinner is really overrated, all it really has is a view. So drinks might be worth it. Ive been there twice and both times I had reservations and waited about 40 minutes to get a table then the food was comparable with Fridays.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:16 AM
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Yeah! We want to hear the outcome. :-D
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:08 PM
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Carriage rides are for proposals and anniversaries, not first dates.
Yeah.

Dinner at Piece and desert at Hot Chocolate was a much better idea.

Better mix of casual and upscale/romantic without the senior prom cheese factor.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:16 PM
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Yeah.

Dinner at Piece and desert at Hot Chocolate was a much better idea.

Better mix of casual and upscale/romantic without the senior prom cheese factor.

Hey, thanks! Not a bad suggestion from an old lady, huh?
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:23 PM
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Just my two cents here, for what it's worth...

On a first date, as a guy, I usually aim for something low key and safe, like getting coffee at a place like Intelligentsia. I usually tell the girl, "Hey, im going to go get coffee tonight, would you like to join me? We can hang out and talk for a little bit". You never want to "invest" too much, after all it is nothing more than a first date, the objective of which is to learn more about her (and her about you), that way you can both see if you really like each other at all (beyond the physical attraction). You never want to go overboard, or overly romantic and you dont want to "trap" the other person (or yourself) on a bad date by eating dinner or going for carriage rides etc. I never take a girl out to eat on a first date at all.

Now, what I do, with coffee, is if it is going well, I will tell her I am in the mood to go get a drink...and walk there...this in essence becomes the 'second date"...hahaha...this is very effective, you are slowly escalating but not going overboard.

Then, the "next date" can be dinner and then whatever else...

Also, two more reasons to avoid taking a girl out to dinner on the first date:

1. If you buy dinner, it can make someone feel like they "owe you" and can be awkward if they did not have a good time on the date, or have decided that they do not like you for dating purposes.
2. By offering to go for coffee only, it helps to eliminate the "dinner scammer" girls who will PRETEND to want to meet you for a date, but are just using you for a free meal (or a free movie, etc). These girls are EVERYWHERE in online dating, especially match dot com, craigs list dot com, etc. So you have to screen them out. how the scam works, is they chat back and forth with you over email, they try to create an image that they are really into you and want to meet you, they try to structure the date around dinner and/or a movie, and agree to meet you. They meet you, have the dinner, act interested and as soon as you pay the bill, BAM, they are out of there, they cant run out of there fast enough! These girls will line up "dates" like this 4 or 5 nights a week, it gives them a chance to eat out for free on someone else's dime. This happened to me at least 6 or 7 times, years ago, when I first started using online dating services, before I caught on to what was happening. It is basicly a scam. Same thing goes on at bars and nightclubs: a girl acts interested, gets you to buy her a drink, and then as soon as you pay for it, she turns around and leaves! Really dishonest and classless.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:16 PM
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Hey, thanks! Not a bad suggestion from an old lady, huh?
Everyone has their moments.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:22 PM
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Just my two cents here, for what it's worth...

On a first date, as a guy, I usually aim for something low key and safe, like getting coffee at a place like Intelligentsia. I usually tell the girl, "Hey, im going to go get coffee tonight, would you like to join me? We can hang out and talk for a little bit". You never want to "invest" too much, after all it is nothing more than a first date, the objective of which is to learn more about her (and her about you), that way you can both see if you really like each other at all (beyond the physical attraction). You never want to go overboard, or overly romantic and you dont want to "trap" the other person (or yourself) on a bad date by eating dinner or going for carriage rides etc. I never take a girl out to eat on a first date at all.

Now, what I do, with coffee, is if it is going well, I will tell her I am in the mood to go get a drink...and walk there...this in essence becomes the 'second date"...hahaha...this is very effective, you are slowly escalating but not going overboard.

Then, the "next date" can be dinner and then whatever else...

Also, two more reasons to avoid taking a girl out to dinner on the first date:

1. If you buy dinner, it can make someone feel like they "owe you" and can be awkward if they did not have a good time on the date, or have decided that they do not like you for dating purposes.
2. By offering to go for coffee only, it helps to eliminate the "dinner scammer" girls who will PRETEND to want to meet you for a date, but are just using you for a free meal (or a free movie, etc). These girls are EVERYWHERE in online dating, especially match dot com, craigs list dot com, etc. So you have to screen them out. how the scam works, is they chat back and forth with you over email, they try to create an image that they are really into you and want to meet you, they try to structure the date around dinner and/or a movie, and agree to meet you. They meet you, have the dinner, act interested and as soon as you pay the bill, BAM, they are out of there, they cant run out of there fast enough! These girls will line up "dates" like this 4 or 5 nights a week, it gives them a chance to eat out for free on someone else's dime. This happened to me at least 6 or 7 times, years ago, when I first started using online dating services, before I caught on to what was happening. It is basicly a scam. Same thing goes on at bars and nightclubs: a girl acts interested, gets you to buy her a drink, and then as soon as you pay for it, she turns around and leaves! Really dishonest and classless.

But, little cynical, don't you think?
I have a 25 year old daughter who wouldn't go to dinner with someone unless she was interested in him. Suffering bad company and worse conversation wouldn't be worth a free meal to her.
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:48 PM
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Well, I think that it is great that your daughter has the class and the self-respect to not subject herself to dinners with guys she does not know, just to get a free meal. But these people do exist; they feel entitled to take advantage of well-meaning suitors. These women who do this know they can get away with it, because most of the guys they meet are going to have some level desparation that will make them weak enough to fall for this type of trick (not me, I was just naive, but not anymore).
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...But when it is cold and you are in a carriage,you can find out pretty much for sure if she is digging you or is attracted to you. If she is, she will snuggle up on you to be warmer.

Or, she'll snuggle regardless because she'll be freezing.... Either way, let us know how it went.

I also like the Piece/Hot Chocolate suggestion
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:55 PM
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Or, she'll snuggle regardless because she'll be freezing.... ...
...and either way it is a good thing.
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